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    • CommentAuthorCrazymuter
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007
     
    Crazymuter

     

     

    Aloha everyone...

      I'm curious to know, that given adequate shower/locker facilities at the end of your ride, how far would you consider commuting by bike? 

    How far is too far for you?

    What is the farthest you have actually commuted? 

     

    Thanks!

     

    CM 

  1.  
    backtoschool

    last year i was riding 15 miles each way to school, averaging 3 times a week before winter hit. 

     now i am riding 3 miles each way. i have transfered and moved

    i might do up to 20 miles one way if the route was enjoyable.

     i am a fair weather rider however, if it is hinting at rain i drive.

    • CommentAuthorClique
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007 edited
     
    Clique

    At the moment, I'm riding a good 15 miles either way to get to college, without any of the shower and locker facilities as mentioned above, although i am often called a bike nut! At the moment I'm doing it daily and have been for the past 8 months come rain or shine!

    At the end of the day, it all depends on the route your taking, as my route is brilliant, across the top of the hills behind the city, on some mornings you can see the sun rising over the city.

    Hope it helps!

    • CommentAuthormerrmeli
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007
     
    merrmeli

    I currently commute a total of 10 miles round trip, but would be willing to commute up to 20 or 30 miles round trip if I had a scenic route without crazy traffic (so that the ride would be enjoyable).  I currently live in Tucson, so I ride to work year round - but the sweat factor is pretty bad in the summer.  I work at the university so I do have access to showers at the rec center, but it costs $$ to join so I end up using paper towels (& more deodorant!).

    More than 15 miles 1-way would probably be too far for me b/c I would consider that time as part of my work day.  Conversely I would ride much further than that for fun, but the key is that a fun ride is more scenic and you don't do the same route every day.    

    • CommentAuthorCanoeBoy
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007
     
    CanoeBoy

    Right now I commute 2 -5 miles each way (distance depends on route and time available) 2 to 3 times per week, if commitments allow.  Showers not necessary. 

    Five years ago or so, I lived further from work and would commute abotu 13 miles each way occassionally (once a week or less).  Showers were available.

    Twenty years ago, I lived even further from work and did not commute by bike as such.  During the summer, I'd ride about 35 miles one way, but carpooled home in the evening then would carpool back in the next morning and ride the 35 miles back home that evening.  Those were more for traiing than commuting.  Showers and clothes change were available at work, so didn't have to carry any gear. 

     Through the years, the bike  I commute on hasn't changed - an old Peugeot with full fenders front and back, lights, and rack added to the rear.

    • CommentAuthorsbadian
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007
     
    sbadian
     I commute 6 miles each way. I would be willing to commute further, but there isn't a feasible route all the way to my office. Right now, I'm just commuting to the bus. A friend of mine commutes 16 miles each way. It's a flat ride all on bike paths and it's a real nice ride. I wish I had a bike commute like that.
    • CommentAuthorCrazymuter
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2007 edited
     
    Crazymuter

     

     

    Thanks for the great input, everyone. I really like to hear about the commutes. I love riding my bike instead of the car and it's a great way to see things that you just don't see in the car. It's better than coffee for me and focuses my mind for the rest of the day.

    Biking in Hawaii is a different animal...not as bike friendly as I had hoped. I used to bike 8 miles to work in Monterey, CA before moving out here. Here, on Oahu they are trying to make things more bike friendly, but so far you just see the improvements in downtown Honolulu. The main arteries that connect the different parts of the island are called bike routes, but are a bit more risky than you'd expect.

    I tried commuting the 35 mile commute just for a short training session I was involved in, and loved it. Did 80 miles on labor day to check my route, and then was working up to the full distance by biking 35 miles there, getting a ride back and so on...I wanted to continue, I was treating it as a ride and not a race and just taking my time up hill half the way, but my boss didn't like that and what he says goes for now (military)...so until I can educate him about the various routes on the island and the statistics about bicycle commuting and just riding in traffic in general, I'm stuck on the shorter rides. Working up to my first century ride at the end of the month, so I'm getting creative with my training rides now.

    Again, thanks for the input!

    CM

  2.  
    flanneryoneil

    I used to do 20 miles roundtrip in Phoenix which was fun most of the time. But as someone alreay said... very sweaty in the summertime!

    I do about 4 miles roundtrip now, since moving and I love it most days. I am very ready for the summer to be over so that these short trips can be a tad less sweaty.

    The scary part about biking here in Phoenix is that people are not on the lookout for cyclists and I have been hit by a car once. Luckily, I walked away unharmed, but my bike wasn't so lucky!

    -Flannery 

    • CommentAuthorDlaub
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2007
     
    Dlaub

    My commute is 18 each way. It is a pretty easy commute too, I only have one troublesome traffic spot.

      20 miles is probably my limit. Time becomes an issue after that point. 

    • CommentAuthorWoebegone
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2007
     
    Woebegone

    My daily commute is 15 miles each way, but don't enjoy any shower facilities when I get there. I usually just end up splashing in the sink, and putting on some clean clothes from my locker. This isn't too bad for most of the year, but in the summer heat, it's kind of a drag.

     

    I guess I'm living proof that you don't NEED a car, even here in Southern California. My rides to and from work are actually the best part of my day. 

    • CommentAuthorscube54
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2007
     
    scube54
    I presently commute home from work 18 miles.  I hitch a ride to work in the morning because I have to be there by 6:00 am.  I sometimes ride to work, but traffic and deer scare me too much. The heat was a real problem during August, I quit riding when it was above 95°.  My only complaint is the headwind that I seem to have most days this summer. 
    • CommentAuthorechunter
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2007
     
    echunter
    I have several routes set up for my commute. I travel a minimum of 12.4 each way. I have three other routes that range from 19 to 35 miles. My work starts at different times so I choose the most convenient route time wise. I try and get a longer ride in at least once a week.
    • CommentAuthorStanleyR1
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2007
     
    StanleyR1

    I'm hoping to do my first commute, 22 miles one way, within the next week or two.  Unfortunately a good portion of it, 8 miles or so, will be on a heavily traveled four-lane commuter artery. 

    If you haven't come across it already, you might be interested in CommuteByBike.com.  The last two articles posted dealt with commuting distances and biking safety.  The safety article was particularly interesting because it talked about some of the misconceptions people have about the danger.

    • CommentAuthorsciconlab
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    sciconlab

    I have a 30 mile commute each way that has some decent climbs (a few miles at 7% grade).  If I am lazy on the way home I put my bike on the bus and cut off about 20 miles.  I have a shower at my office and for the time being I am the only one that uses it.  During the winter months it gets tough because of the limited daylight.  I can't wait for spring.

    • CommentAuthormr.benton
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     
    mr.benton

    If I commute from home then it is a distance of 30miles each direction which takes about 2 hours 20 mins to work and 2 hours 5 mins on the way home.  however this proves to be a bit much especially in the winter so I do a combination of drive/cycle.  I drive 10 miles with the bike on the back of the car and cycle the rest of the way.  I try to cycle all the way once a week or drive/cycle at least 2 days a week, my aim is to reduce my home to work car mileage by 10 - 20 % a year.  I have showers at the end of the journey. 

    • CommentAuthorPretre
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     
    Pretre

    I do an 18.5mile round trip about 3 or 4 times a week - takes about 45 minutes there & about 55 minutes back, due to the hill back up to home.

     

  3.  
    bgreer01720
    I do 15.5 miles each way, often 5 days a week in the summer months if the weather cooperates.  We've got showers at work and I tend to keep a supply of clothes at work so I don't have to schlep them back and forth.  Can't beat combining a workout with your commute.  What would take me 25-30 minutes driving usually is less than an hour on the bike.
    • CommentAuthorcwiggins
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    cwiggins
    I recently began commuting to work. It's 15.5 miles each way with little traffic. I don't do it everyday; it's been about two-three times per week. I hope to do it full time eventually. It's a great way to begin the day, but the ride back can be much harder!
    • CommentAuthorbs96
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     
    bs96
    Wow, you guys make me feel like a wuss! My commute is only 7 miles one way, but for what it's worth, it's through New York City. Sometimes, I race the Roosevelt Island Tram over the 59th St. Bridge. But I always dodge horse manure in Central Park. = )
    • CommentAuthordobovedo
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     
    dobovedo

    I do 10.5 each way, 4 of 5 days per week, on average, year round.

    I also add additional miles, sometimes before, sometimes after work, up to 60-70 miles on some days, and ride a total of 10,000 plus per year.

    If I were commuting only, I would probably see 20-25 as a max. But given the additional riding I do, 10 is perfect.

    I am fortunate enough to have a flexible schedule and work mostly just afternoons in an office and additional hours at home on weekends and evenings. 

    I don't have access to showers at my office, but keep toiletries and basically wash up using the bathroom sink. Body spray is a wonderful thing. Wink

    • CommentAuthorcbrandes
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    cbrandes

    My commute is between 12 and 24 miles round trip depending on weather and the amount of time I have to get to work. My office has a shower in the bathroom.

     I'm lucky to have many different options to get there including converted railroad beds, backcountry roads and busy mainlines (in case I need to get there or home ASAP) Being a father of 2 its especially important to be able to get home quickly if I need to.

    I ride in Upstate NY in the winter and have to deal with snow (and salt) all the time. I wouldn't trade it for the world though!

    • CommentAuthortivo
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008
     
    tivo

    I have done 12 miles.  In the summer it is easier because it is light earlier in the morning and stays light laters.  I won't commute in the dark anymore since I have been hit and ended up being unable to ride for months afterward.

     The other issue on distance is the availability of a safe route to me.  I am still a little car shy after getting hit so won't ride main arteries at all.

    • CommentAuthorbrotherj
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
     
    brotherj

    I do 14.4 miles each way 5 days a week.  Since July 5th I've missed 3 days because of weather (the local news made the snow covered roads sound suicidal, but now I just ignore the news weenies and go) and 5 days because of meetings and the like.

     We have a shower, but it is more trouble than it's worth.  I just use wipe and go's in the men's room and change into clothes I bring in my pannier.  

    The folks at the office started off thinking I was crazy, then it increased to eccentric.  Now I am viewed as a highly disciplined person to keep up the exercise regimen inspite of the Ohio weather.  Reality is that I'm having a ball riding my bike and getting in the miles. 

    • CommentAuthor_neil_
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    _neil_

    My commute isn't long enough. It's 13km (which, apparently, is about eight miles). However, I think you should take a look at this.

    http://www.tredzblog.co.uk/2007/09/cycle-commuting.html

    This guy commutes from Swansea to Cardiff and back...every day. If you don't know Wales very well, that's an amazing 43 miles each way. I believe a tip of the hat is in order.

    • CommentAuthormistere
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2008
     
    mistere
    My commute is a combination of biking and public transit.  Depending on just how much public transit I use, my biking is 17 to 22 miles round trip.  I've been doing this since May 05.  Now I buy gas once a month, but the commute takes 2 hours each way, it's an hour or less by car.
    • CommentAuthorraw19
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008
     
    raw19

    My commute is ~10mi each way.  Would be happy to do ~15 or so each way.  Am trying to average 2 days/week right now and sticking to fair weather for the time being.

     It's about 80min round trip - faster downhill than up.  Compared to about 40-60min round trip in the car I see it as being able to squeeze 80min of exercise into 30min of time. :)

    There's a shower at work, which i'm sure I'll need once it's over 70F in the morning, but so far it's been 40-60F and no problem.

    I'm interested to see if I keep it up once summer hits and it's 80F+ in the morning and 90F+ for the ride home.

    • CommentAuthorBelita
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2008
     
    Belita

    I'm hoping to go back to commuting 32 miles round trip 3-4 days per week maybe this week if I think I can stand 20-25 degrees in the morning, avoid the ice, and put up with my junker bike.  I get really tired by the end of the week though, so try not to commute on Fridays. I make that a day to bring in clothes for the next week.  My son goes to school where I work, so if I'm desperate I can ride home with him, but he usually talks me out of it with, "You can do it, Mom.  You'll feel better if you ride."  Really he just doesn't want me critiquing his driving.Wink

    How can you guys put up with the tiredness?  After the 3rd day commuting, I'm so exhausted.  I usually put in about 100-150+ miles per week all spring, summer, and fall, so I do ride a bunch.  I'm hoping to be able to try commuting the snowmobile trails on my mountain bike one day--if it's not too far. Otherwise I have only one route to work.  I could do others, but they'd add so many more miles.

    I usually shower before I go and clean up when I get there, except when it's a messy, rainy commute, then I shower.  But I feel like such a mooch-- I borrow another teacher's shower.

  4.  
    cdalef29er

    I ride all year round.  I commute to school 11 miles one way.  Then I usually do a ride after or before whether it be mountain bike or road.

     

    I shower before I leave.  Then once I arrive a freshen up.  I average 15 miles per hour to school to keep the sweet down.  I have a locker at school where I keep soap and body spray.  I go into class looking and smelling as though I drove. 

  5.  
    cdalef29er
    I forgot I would ride up to 25 miles each way if need be.  If things work out once I graduate this May and land that job in Philly I may realize the aforementioned.
    • CommentAuthorapella
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    apella
    I commute all year round rain, sun or snow and average 12 miles one way.  Inthe summer I like to add some miles to dry out from all the rain so 20 to 25.  I would ride up to 30 miles one way, I really do not like to drive....
    • CommentAuthorshepardd
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    shepardd

    Interesting reading these posts.

    I commute 25 to 30 miles each way 3 to 4 days a week year round in new england. On the other days sometimes its only 30 miles total.  Ive been doing this for about 13 years.  Usually I will ride 25 to 90 miles on one day of the weekend.

    One poster mentioned the fatigue, after a while you get hardened to it.  Your pace makes a big difference, go slow some days.  Make sure and eat enough, its easy to just run out of fuel.

    You definately gain some notariety by riding to work, people think you are a hero, or extremely dedicated, odd, or a nutcase, or even DUI offender.

    What is my commuting limit? it depends on the frequency, Im probably close to the limit now, but could do 50 each way if it did not have to be every day.

    • CommentAuthorredcycling
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    redcycling

    20 to 25 one way if it is a nice shot; few traffic lights.

    I commute 6 in the AM in the streets of Chicago - stopping at all red lights (unlike my fellow riders) - this makes for great interval training with speeds up to 30 mph in short distances and great starts off the light.  Nice bird bath as my wife calls it clean up in the office restrooms and change of clothes.  With this type of riding I generally do 10 to 15 on the way home followed by a nice shower.

    Commute via bike is best for all.

     

    • CommentAuthorzeegeezer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    zeegeezer
    I wouldn't want to spend more than an hour on a commute, whether by foot, bike, train, bus or car. Preferably less.  And for biking I'd have to include the shower time (15 minutes or so).  So that's 45 minutes on the bike.  Which for me is 10 miles or less.  My commute right now is either 7.5 or 9 miles depending on whether I take the scenic route (along San Francisco Bay) all the way or not.  Downhill going to work and majorly uphill going home.
    • CommentAuthorwqlava1
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2008
     
    wqlava1

    I live 40 km (25mi) from work and have commuted 4 days/week from there with a Wednesday break, but my legs got a bit tired.  From home it is between 85 and 110 minutes, with the slow times on rainy days.  It's quicker to drive two of my sons to their high school and ride from there - only 26.5km (16.5mi).  Then I get to talk to the boys for 15 minutes, and the ride is a few minutes under an hour.  Both options compare well with the 110 minute tram and bus ride home on public transport - and that is getting more crowded as fuel prices go up.

    I started graphing my BMI against my speed in km/h to work back in Sept last year when i started commuting.  They were 29 and 20 respectively.  Now they have crossed so my BMI is 26 point something, my average speed is around 28 or 29, and some weight has disappeared!  Life is good.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorUncleLarry
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2008
     
    UncleLarry
    I commute 10.5 miles to work.  21 miles round trip.  Try to ride at least 75% of time.  Work a rotating 12 hour shift and have 2 yungins so it makes it kind of hard sometimes.
    • CommentAuthorkhowell99
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2008
     
    khowell99

    I commute 22 miles each way, 4 days per week on average. I have been fortunate to find a route with only a few miles of heavy traffic exposure.  We have a shower at the office that no one else uses.  I work in a conservative firm, so it was a bit of a shock to some the first day I carried my bike in covered in spandex and road grime.  

    I generally drive in on Monday and leave suits, shirts, ties, toiletries, etc. in my office and leave my car in the parking garage until Friday.  That way I have a car at the office in case I need to head to an offsite meeting or run an errand.  On the continum between completely hostile and completely supportive, I would say my firm is on the supportive side of neutral.  The key for me (and many others) is making sure that there is no negative effect on my availability, performance or appearance based on my choice to commute by bike in a car-centric metro area.

    The best part is, as I commute in, I smile at every Prius and think, "What a wasteful fossil fuel burning anacrhonism that is..."  I actually get to out-self righteous the Prius drivers. That's way up the self righteous scale...

     

  6.  
    wheatonrunner69

    I live around Boston and only have the luxury of bike commuting in the summer.  My current route is about 62 miles round trip from door to door:

    http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/norwood/717649396

     

    It's been done in an 100 minutes, but the stop lights and traffic in the afternoon make that impossible.  I must admit its kinda chilly at 6am on the ride in, but usually warms up nicely by 7.

    Thats about as long (time not distance) as I'd commute to work. I'd have no problem doing a 80 mile round trip if there were no stop lights and traffic.

     - WR

     

  7.  
    chuck091956

    Hello All,

    I'm living in the Phoenix AZ area and doing 40 miles round trip. It's not too hilly but both out and back I have a 9 mile slow steady upgrade. I've been doing this for the last few months. I'm hoping to be able to keep it up when the temps hit 100+.

    Chuck

    • CommentAuthorkdillman
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2008
     
    kdillman

    Last year I was commuting just over 20 miles each way. Most of those miles were on low-traffic secondary or tertiary roads. The biggest danger was navigating the, um, ghetto areas between my house in the burbs and the office in the downtown/midtown area. Mornings were fine--everyone was still sleeping; but, the evenings were sometimes a little tense. That just gave me more reason to go faster!

    I'm working from home this year, which is great considering no commute. I do miss logging 40 miles each day, though.

    Be safe and enjoy the commute!

    • CommentAuthorjerrym
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2008
     
    jerrym
    Crazymuter:

     

     

    Aloha everyone...

    I'm curious to know, that given adequate shower/locker facilities at the end of your ride, how far would you consider commuting by bike? 

    How far is too far for you?

    What is the farthest you have actually commuted? 

     

    Thanks!

     

    CM 

     I commute 9 miles to work each day.  My wife comes by on Monday afternoon to drop off clothes and Friday afternoon to pick them up.  Mon, Wed, Fri when I go to the gym, it is a 4.5 mile ride that I modify routes to get in between the 4.5 miles up to 35 miles.  Tuesday and Thursday, I take the long way home about 15 miles or the longer way home which is 25 miles. 

    • CommentAuthormikep
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008 edited
     
    mikep
    I commute 9.3 miles each way, it takes me about 35 minutes each way..  I work at a hospital 7a-7p, 3 days a week.  We don't have a shower available.  So i get cleaned up in our locker room bathroom.  Sink, soap, shampoo and 2 towels.   I leave my work sneakers and toiletries at work.  I wear a small pack, Dakine hydration pack, and only have to carry my scrubs, wallet and ID in my bag.  When it gets warmer i ride a little slower on the way in so i don't sweat too much.  If it's a real nice day and I'm not too tired (after working 12 hours) I take a longer way home.  I started commuting 2 years ago, but i"ve been riding to work 2 out of 3 days a week pretty consistently now.  Partly with the gas thing and partly to try to get in better shape.  Also, I added a helmet mirror, that I rigged to my M Frames and feel much more comfortable (but still cautious) in traffic, it makes a huge difference having a rear view and not have to constantly look over your shoulder.
    • CommentAuthorbartidog
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008 edited
     
    bartidog
    I commute about 11 miles (22 round trip), and have the most amazing route across part of the Blue Ridge Parkway. I would do this in the winter too, but I've not tried it to date. In the warm months, I used to get up and ride for an hour (6 - 7am) covering about 18 miles. I'd shower and change at home before driving to work, but now I just bike it to work and splash off in the sink. Even in summer, it's often in the 50's in the morning, so if I take it easy, I don't work up too much of a sweat, even on the hills :) I would for sure do more if I had a shower/change facility.
    • CommentAuthorchalladay
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    challaday

    My current commute is about 13 miles round trip.  My workplaces is extremely supportive of carless commuting, and actually pays a small bonus for not using a car for commuting ($2 per day you don't drive a car or a paid bus pass each month).  We have shower facilites and lockers. 

     In that kind of environment, I would definitely bike from further out, probably upwards of 45 minutes one-way. 

     What's really funny is that my car commutes, when I need to take my car in, are about 20-22 minutes.  My bike commute this morning was 24 minutes, 54 seconds, from home driveway to sitting at my office desk.

    • CommentAuthorMalak
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008
     
    Malak

    I commute 28 miles round trip every other week. Work is 40 miles away and I carpool with a buddie. When it's my buddies turn to drive I ride to his house, 14 miles. Also, I ride the full 40 miles to work when I go on-call about every 10 weeks.

    Because of the traffic here in SoCal I get home about 15 minutes later than I would if I had driven. The 28 mile ride takes me 1:20 and the 40 mile ride takes 2:10. Since my start time at work is 06:30 AM I have to leave at 04:30 or 03:15 respectively. Have to make sure you have good head lights as it's really dark at these hours. Never had any trouble with traffic.

    Work is great about it. We have full locker/shower plus I get incentives for carpooling (bike riding is concidered carpooling). Generally I get to take off a little early when I go off-call and ride the full 40 miles home.

    • CommentAuthorAllemanni
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008
     
    Allemanni

    A group of us commute 32 miles round trip to Walnut Creek, CA - all flat with a choice of either bike trails (a converted rail line plus a trail that is parallel to a canal) or road.  In the Winter we usually stick to the trail or road, but in the Summer we opt for a longer, 42 mile ride over Mt. Diablo that includes a total 3K ascent.  We have showers and lockers at work, so everything works out fine.

  8.  
    greg-the-red

    I live in Leicester, UK. I ONLY cycle to work. Whilst my wife owns a car, I do not, so really I have no choice but to cycle to work, doing so for the last 22 years. Distance to work is 5.85miles, and takes 35minutes from home to office desk, including changing into office clothes in the changing room at work.

    In general a good cycling commuting distance is considered to be about 5miles. Any less and you benefit less from heart training effect, much more and the commute becomes a chore (so unlikely to become a regular lifetime activity), as well as using a disproportionate amount of your valuable time, as compared to the average UK commute time of 45minutes and 8.5miles (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3085647.stm)

  9.  
    JamisonRoberts

    By car, my round trip commute is 96 miles.  To do it by bike, it would be up around 110 miles (gotta avoid the freeways!).

    I've never ridden to work, however I have had my wife drop me off at work and I ride home.

     Ideally I'd live no more than 15 miles from work.  That would ensure I'd commute by bike in all but the nastiest of weather.

     

    • CommentAuthor0x029a
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008 edited
     
    0x029a

    I'm one of the lucky ones, my commute is a mere 2.66 miles. There fore I do find myself seeking longer and longer routes, so as to your question. I fear I wood commute a ridiculous amount of miles, which I wood also seek lodging closer.

    Weather is a large factor in commuting. 4 seasons or 4 different training sessions. be safe.

     

    Ride Defensively.

    0x029a