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    runningincircles12

    I'm in high school and just getting into running.  The problem is I am pre-diabetic (Insulin-Impaired), and don't know if theres anything special i should be doing, eating, etc.  I currently take Metformin 2x a day.  Is there anyone who has blood sugar issues or advice???

    Thank you!

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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberDannyF
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2008
     
    DannyF

    I have some issues with that too. I take a dirivitive of metformin that is supposed to be easier on your stomache, its caled Fortamet. I take it 2x a day as well. One thing i will say is you will feel tons better running, it helps your body be more receptive to the insulin. Second is i always eat something small, even a piece of toast and some pb about na hour to hour and a hlaf before i run. That usually staves off any problems. But if i am going out for 4 or more miles i will take a drink that is 1/2 or so juice or sports drink and 1/2 water . Otherwise i tend to get a little dizzy.

    Basically its a trial and error thing. For the first month or so, try different things to see what works for you. Also try track running, or running with a cell phone in a well populated area and telling someone where you are running ( which are all smart running tips to begin with). In general if your bgl is under control with the fortamet you should be ok. Just be careful on long runs and in heat about hypoglycemia. If you have any questions ill be glad to answer.

    ~danny~

    Running , 7 yrs, age 19, insulin resistant for 10 yrs.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTakamiru
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2008
     
    Takamiru

    "Basically its a trial and error thing. For the first month or so, try different things to see what works for you. Also try track running, or running with a cell phone in a well populated area and telling someone where you are running ( which are all smart running tips to begin with). In general if your bgl is under control with the fortamet you should be ok. Just be careful on long runs and in heat about hypoglycemia."

     ^ everything mentioned above is really important.  If you're new on insulin meds staying safe is really important! I'd carry around a medical ID too. 

     I can only half relate to both posts here. I was diagnosed diabetic at 17, and initially responded well to pills. I eventually got onto insulin and in 2,000 got onto an insulin pump that pretty much saved my life.

    Running and being diabetic can be tricky.Make sure you check your blood sugar before you run; and since you need to know what exercise does for you (for some people it raises blood sugar, for others it drops them -> I'm one who gets a big drop from exercise). It takes some juggling to see what works. A decent diabetic educator (one who actually knows what they're talking about, because I've met a few who are clueless and don't know the first thing about running apparently), will work with you. 

     Exercise and Running will definitely help your HbA1C levels and all other parts of your body. It also helps stave off depression too. 

     

    Hope this helps ^_^

    I'm open to answering questions too.

    -Takamiru

     31, Type 1, Insulin Pump, and asthmatic. 

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeAug 21st 2008
     
    burgalurg

    Takamiru,

    My friend is a ten year type one diabetic on the pump.  She's looking for someone to help her figure out how to adjust her pump so that she doesn't get low blood sugar while she is exercising.  Do you eat before you go out?  Do you bring juice with you?  What kind of pack do you use to hold your supplies while you exercise?  Do you prefer a specific brand or type?  Do you know of any support groups for active diabetics?

    Thank you for your input!

    KJ

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTakamiru
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    Takamiru

    I'd love to hear from any other insulin pumpers on this topic! ^_^ 

    Hi ya ^_^

    I don't know how much help I can be, I've been on a pump since 2000, so she's got me beat by 2 years! lol

    I'm currently using a Cozmore pump. I've used a Disetronic before this one and have a Mini-med as a backup. I love the Cozmore, save that the Cleo infusion sets don't always stick when I run, so I use first aid tape to keep it down and on. When I run the pump fits into my pocket (same with at work). I also have a hard plastic case that can clip onto a belt easily, basically like a cell phone. I have a fanny pack that would work for a pump too, but haven't needed it for  while. Since my meter is attached to the pump the only thing I really have to carry along are strips and a lancet.

     Figuring out a pump can be really hard. Every person is different regardless of what the Dr's or diabeticians say. The best advice I got from my internist was to do what "you" need, and work on what you know. That advice got me on a pump and pretty much saved my life. Since then though, I have found that diabeticians who use the pump themselves, seem to be better at giving help with exercising and adjusting the pump. Finding a good one who runs themselves and realizes everyone's a little different is better than anything I could advise. (I'm in the process of switching clinics and am look for that sort of person again).

    One tool that has helped me out big time has been a continuous 24hr monitor. Mini-med has one that stays on for 3 days (there are other models), and takes blood sugar readings every 3 minutes. If you keep a diary and have the information from the monitor it can chart out what exercise actually does to your body. In my case we found out it drops me big time. They're expensive, but I'm going to find a clinic that has one because it can help adjust basal rates too.

     

    As far as food - After eating wait 30 minutes after before running, a nurse told me this, apparently running sooner is harder on your heart. Since I can usually feel my lows coming on I don't usually keep food on me, but juice or a glucose gel work wonderfully. Before I go out though, I usually see what my number is and set some sort of mark, say my number needs to be 200 before I run, by the time I get back it will be down or be about normal. I know someone's t'sking at that number, but if I left at 140 and went running I'd be down to 80 or lower when I came back. Some diabetic runners shut off their pumps when they run, some drop the basal rate in half, I've done both and it takes a lot of fidgeting to figure out what works. As far as bolusing with food before running, I usually half my calculated insulin dose. That has worked well for me, but it's a process of continually adjusting. Not easy but it can be done.

    That's about all I know.

     Save for a few things I figured out the hard way:

    Namely insulin in a pump usually has a 3 to 5 day shelf-life. I only put in as much insulin as I know I'm going to use in that time otherwise it stops working for me. Heat also affects insulin whether it's in a cartridge or not. Frio makes a case that keeps pumps and syringes cool but I have yet to buy one (They're supposed to be good for medications that need to be cooled, specifically in emergency situations). They have cooling cases that fit insulin pumps, I will be getting one pretty soon for emergency use, they're a bit costly though (just google Frio). Also, changing insulin sites is really important - every 3 days at least. And, apparently I also drop lower quicker when I run and it's hot. I think that's just me though.

    I hope this helps. The only other thing I can think of that's absolutely vital to run with is to carry a cell phone and contact info (ala id bracelet, card, etc.).

    -Taka miru

    P.S. It takes some work to exercise with diabetes but it's totally worth it.

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    SeanReymond

    Hi Everyone - 

    Nice to see this topic and it is great to hear what works for others. I have been diabetic for 10+ years and switched to the pump about 1.5 years ago. Over the past year I have been training and running various endurance (marathon, half) races. 

    For me I feel awful when my blood sugar is at or above 200 when I run, so I try to maintain a more normal level and use a combination of adjusting basal insulin rates and small glucose boosts. It took a few months before I felt that I really had a handle on how to adjust my basal insulin rate, and it was a lot of experimenting and testing that finally got me there. I typically reduce my basal rate to 30-40% of normal while running and 80% for a few (2-3) hours after running. I also consume glucose (clif shot bloks, gels) every 15-20 minutes while I am running.

    Keep in mind that there are many variables to figure in while adjusting basal insulin rates or glucose intake. For instance, if I am running for over 1-1.5 hrs then I will definatly consume glucose every 15 minutes, while if I am out for a 30 minute easy run then I might only consume a little glucose at the midway point. So things to factor in are intensity, duration, etc.

    Another important point is that for many people (me espically) exercise can effect insulin efficiency for up to 6 hours. So be sure to watch your blood sugar after meals that you eat following running, as your typical bolus can cause a low blood sugar quite easily. 

    Sean

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
     
    burgalurg

    Thanks, everyone!  I'll report back to her when she's a bit less busy (she is getting married next Saturday!  Yayyyy!)  Thanks again for all your insight and sharing.  I'm sure it will help to know that there are others out there who can regulate the diabetes while running. 

    KJ (speaking for Diana)

    : )