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  1.  
    davidetommaso
    1. if one creates a route, saves, then goes back to edit at a later time/date, it's impossible to correct or delete one section of plotting -- your options are limited to keeping the error in or starting the route all over again. 2. While plotting a longer route, it's impossible to save in an edit mode, so if you need more time to plot than you have, you basically need to either finish and save or abandon what you've done already and start all over again. 3. When plotting a longer route -- with twists and turns, it is better for the browser's scripting to create, say, one inaccurate continuous loop and return for fine tuning after saving? I created a 60+ KM route by plotting every twist and turn (via sat map) and it takes forever to load now, and editing is nearly impossible.
    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!jeff@mmf
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2007
     
    jeff@mmf
    davidetommaso:1. if one creates a route, saves, then goes back to edit at a later time/date, it's impossible to correct or delete one section of plotting -- your options are limited to keeping the error in or starting the route all over again.

    Are you aware that you can drag/drop your route points? You should be able to use this mechanism to correct your route. If you're unfamiliar with this feature, our "advanced editing features" tutorial video shows how to do it. Check it out here.

    2. While plotting a longer route, it's impossible to save in an edit mode, so if you need more time to plot than you have, you basically need to either finish and save or abandon what you've done already and start all over again.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean here.  We expect that you should be able to save your changes from edit mode.  If you can't, that's certainly a problem.  In general, there are some performance issues for really long routes (which I'll address below)

     

    3. When plotting a longer route -- with twists and turns, it is better for the browser's scripting to create, say, one inaccurate continuous loop and return for fine tuning after saving? I created a 60+ KM route by plotting every twist and turn (via sat map) and it takes forever to load now, and editing is nearly impossible.

    As you have seen, the site does get slower while plotting longer routes.  This is natural, as your computer is processing a lot more data when a route contains many points.  However, we have some tips to help with this. 

     First, if you're not already using Firefox, we highly recommend that you do.  Firefox's performance on sophisticated 'Web 2.0' apps such as ours is a world better than on IE.  If you're currently using IE, I think you'll see a huge difference if you switch to Firefox.  

     Second, you may want to try restarting your browser.  Firefox can sometimes get in a state where it's memory leaks to the point of degrading its' performance.  If you're on Windows, you can check this through the task manager and looking at the Firefox process.  I've often seen firefox.exe taking up 400mb of memory or more, which is way too much.  In these cases, restarting the browser makes things a lot faster.

    Third, if you're already on Firefox and still see performance issues, the best upgrade you can make to improve performance on our site is to increase the amount of RAM in your system.  For plotting long  routes, we recommend a system with at least 1GB of RAM, but more is even better.

     In the future, we plan on enhancing some of the routing features to increase performance for long routes, but until then, these tips should help quite a bit.

  2.  
    davidetommaso
    I tried to apply the drag and drop method to a route that needed correction. It worked, but now the length of the route isn't showing up -- it lists as 0 km. I do use firefox and I work in the Mac enviornment with 2 Gb of memory. The editing process, even on the shorter route, was jerky and hesitant. But thanks for taking the time to reply.
    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!jeff@mmf
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2007
     
    jeff@mmf

    If you're seeing a distance of 0km while editing, this is a problem that we need to fix.  Please let us know if you can get a repeatable case of this. 

    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!jeff@mmf
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2007
     
    jeff@mmf

    Hey David-

    Upon further investigation, I believe that I found and corrected the issue with distance showing as 0 km when you first edit a route.  Thanks so much for reporting this, as you helped us make the site better.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberQ73
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     
    Q73

    Have you added new points? I have just noticed that the function to add point (click on point, then choose add/delete tab) actually breaks the route... the new point does not seem to be connected to the existing route. Moving existing points, however, works.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermunkfish
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2007 edited
     
    munkfish

    Jeff - I spoke to you via email about editing existing routes just today:

    > Problem Description:
    > When editing an existing route, I'm unable to add points before or
    > after an existing point on the route.
    >
    > To reproduce:
    > 1. Click on 'My Rides'.
    > 2. Click 'edit' in right-hand column next to an existing route.
    > 3. Click an existing point - from popup box click 'Add/Delete' and
    > then click 'Add point before/after this one'.
    >
    > Popup closes, but no extra point is added.

    After revisiting the problem just now I can confirm I have the same issue as Q71:

    Q71:

    Have you added new points? I have just noticed that the function to add point (click on point, then choose add/delete tab) actually breaks the route... the new point does not seem to be connected to the existing route. Moving existing points, however, works.

    By following steps 1-3 above (clicking on a point and choosing to add a new point before or after the current point), no point is added and instead the route is broken into two segments/paths. As Q71 says, moving existing points works fine.

    Saving the route and then reopening it will pull up the fragmented route - two routes for the price of one! Unfortunately not much of a bonus really :/

    Can someone confirm that the 'add point' feature definitely works in a quick test in 'edit' mode please and give details of what browser they're using?

    Also - I should say that the add point feature DOES work when you're creating a new route - you can add new points fine at the time you're creating a new route. It's only after saving a route and then going back to edit it that you can't add new points and the route is broken up.

    I've tested this in both IE and Firefox and the issue is the same in both unfortunately.

    Cheers.

    PS - sorry for adding this post to the 'Features' forum, this isn't a feature request - it's a problem report - but it fits in with the other posts in this thread!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrosingm
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2007
     
    rosingm

    As I understand it, you CANNOT edit routes using the "follow road" setting, right?

     Even moving points I found that the map changed but the printout route did NOT change...?

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpjh
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2007
     
    pjh

    Has there been any conclusion of this? I have the same problem. Adding of points does not work. When editing things look OK at first, but once I save the route the new route gets broken and it turns out that the points were added to the end of the route, and not in the middle.

    While editing there is no user response at all to clicking "add point after this one" and that seems strange. Perhaps that is related to the problem? No new point is generated to be added.

     Summa summarum: I have not succeeded to add points in the middle of the route. I am using IE 6.x.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberfkelly
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2007
     
    fkelly

    To this add:  let's say you have a route that essentially creates a big loop.  It goes out a few roads, let's say a, b, c then branches off on a loop to the south on  d,  e, and f.   Eventually  it loops around back to the north  and connects back into c again, then b, and then a back to finish at  the start point.

    Using your follow roads feature, since there are already points on c, b, and a when I get back to them I am unable to add the return points.  If I click on the loop feature it just draws a line straight back to the starting point totally ignoring any roads.  

    This is not an "out and back" type of course because it does not go a, b, c, d and then d, c, b, a ... if you follow.  There's a loop in the middle so it could kind of be described as an out and back with a loop.  But as far as I can see there is no way to make your software produce this map.

    The map in question, still incomplete is sharis map in my profile.  The last point in it is where the loop ends and I need to be able to follow the roads I started with in reverse order back to the starting point. 

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Membertoropeza
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2007
     
    toropeza
    I logged into the forum to find info on this as well. I was trying to add a point, and now I have a route that is cut in half. Is this feature going to be fixed?
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRossebabe
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2007
     
    Rossebabe
    In reply to

    By following steps 1-3 above (clicking on a point and choosing to add a new point before or after the current point), no point is added and instead the route is broken into two segments/paths. As Q71 says, moving existing points works fine.

    Saving the route and then reopening it will pull up the fragmented route - two routes for the price of one! Unfortunately not much of a bonus really :/ 

    By: Authormunkfish Comment TimeAug 7th 2007

    I am experiancing the same problem I am using IE 7

     

    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!jeff@mmf
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2007
     
    jeff@mmf

    Hey guys-

     I'm working furiously to develop a new routing engine that will fix a lot of these lingering issues.  I plan on releasing a public beta of this today, and I encourage you to join my beta test group for more info.

     -jeff