Hi, I'm curious as to what you guys think of riding at night for a commute.
I live in Toledo, OH, and go to college there, and I have a job 15 miles or so away. I haven't ridden to work yet, because I start at 5pm, and get off around 10 or 11pm. I don't have any lights, as of now, so, I don't want to try, but have any of you had success with night commutes?
I would second the comments - you're right not to try without lights, but get yourself kitted up and make a go of it! You'll save enough on gas (call it $3/day at 30 mpg and $3/gal * 20 work days/month = $60) in the first month to buy adequate lights, and you'll get fit and have more fun. I really enjoy riding home at night, myself.
I run one of these: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=20472&subcategory_ID=4320, which are on clearance right now at performance as well as a second, dimmer flashing light up front, and a pair of red flashers in back, but that's mostly just to be seen. I really suggest 2 lights front and back - batteries usually give you some warning as they're dying (lights dim) and most lights are pretty waterproof, but redundancy is a good thing.
I don't work for performance or anything, but they do have a bunch of lights on sale right now, actually, and a 10% coupon running. FWIW, I don't feel the need on my commute to have any of the $150+ lights that really let you see - There's enough streetlight along my commute to keep me happy. And be careful with the ultra-bright systems - they burn through batteries a lot faster - they probably wouldn't last through 2 commutes if you forgot to charge one night.
In addition to the suggested lighting and the reflectors on the bike, I also use the ankle reflectors (which also helps keep windbreaker pants out of the chain) and a hi vis reflective vest. My commute home is in the dark, nice riding!
Have fun and be safe!
I ride a lot at night and early morning as I am in the navy and get stuck with some odd shifts. I love it because, at least in SE Georgia, there's no traffic and the coastal winds have mostly died down.
Stay visible! We h have a dozen or so homeless fellows in town that ride around all night with no helmet, vest, reflectors or lights and ride down the middle of the lanes and they are not easily spotted.
Always keep in mind, day or night, miles ridden are still miles ridden and calories burned.
I used to live up your way many years ago when I was a teen. One thing I remember distinctly is that Toledo drivers, for whatever reason, are notorious for running through lights long after they've turned red. Just curious if you have observed the same?
I ride year round and have lights on my bike for 7 out of 12 months. I wear high visibility vests/jackets and really like Illuminite products. Check out www.performancebike.com
I use a flashing taillight and a combination of headlights. I have an HID light on my handlebars for seeing the road, and an extra LED light for being seen (also because it's a good backup if I run out of juice on the HID). I also have a 2nd HID on my helmet, which is great for aiming into cars to make sure I have eye contact and to see signs and other things on the side of the road.
One thing I have found out over the years is that visibility is actually harder to maintain at dusk/low light than in total darkness. Cycling lights aren't as bright in contrast to the setting sun. Many days I work just a bit long to actually wait for it to get darker out before I head home. It also lets the traffic die down a bit, although I ride between two small towns, Piqua/Troy, OH.
The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way. Their lights are always better than mine but don't seem to illuminate my side of the road. In fact they throw it into shadow.
Anyone else have this problem?
I do the commute 2 times a week. I agree with aju not to try this without lights. Even on well lit streets with bike lanes it is a bad idea to ride without a light front and rear. I am also looking at investing in a reflective vest to stand out even more. I am blessed with wide bike lanes and well lit streets and people still act like they don't see you. I love the ride to and from work and like the money savings a the end of the month. Shop around for a light, in most cases that $20.00 dollar light from your local shop isn't going to be enough. Especially late at night, the brighter the better to see and be seen!
I've done night commuting and it can be great. Do what you need to do to be seen lights front and rear, I have tires with reflective side walls that are really effective. Reflective clothing such as anything with illumiNITE fabric really helps define your shape to drivers. Beware drunk drivers. Avoid trafic as much as possible even if it means taking a much longer route.
PBA Wrote: The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way. Their lights are always better than mine but don't seem to illuminate my side of the road. In fact they throw it into shadow.
Anyone else have this problem?
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I shake my head up and down (I use a headlamp) when a car is coming. It seems to alert cars that there is something up ahead, and they lower their brights. If you then look at the road directly in front of you until the car passes, it's usually just enough to track you right.
Beware the geek factor. Or folks thinking you're a coal miner. LOL. ;)
i know it's not technically legal but on busyish roads at night i ride facing into oncoming traffic. i feel a lot safer than when they're coming up behind me as you never know if they've seen you or not. seems to make drivers take more care when passing you and gives you a chance to get out of the way if necessary...
when i was a kid i had red and white lights on both the frount and back of my bike which i suppose would catch a motorists eye, therefore making him pay more attention....
tired motorists tend to slip into somewhat of a trace, try something different to snap them out of it...
Grab some lights for your nightly commutes, and spend a little
extra and get a rechargeable lighting system… I recently purchased the nightrider
mini USB. It’s a power full, lightweight system.
I love cycling at night, lights are a must though. I am a big fan of retroflective tape and have stuck some red tape down the back of my seat stays. The advantage of this is that it is always on the bike so i can cycle in what ever clothing i like. It is the car lights that light up the tape so I'm not having to worry about batteries for a second rear light. And, if my rear light was to fail i can still be seen.
I use a smart 1/2 watt led light at the rear which is nice and bright. I am not a big fan of flashing rear lights, drivers find them hard to focus on to judge distance and if the light is bright when it flashes it draws the drivers eyes to it and they if not switched on can end up driving where there eyes are pointing.
Safe cycling is about being predictable, if you have a good bright rear light on consistent mode car drivers expect it and will act accordingly, in theory!
I live about 8 miles from work, and go to college as well. I don't own a car, I take my bike everywhere, and usually get off around 10-11 pm. (I work at Outback Steakhouse, out of curisoity, where do you work those sound like server hours to me) The ride is not bad at all. My reccomendation is to find a back road route to your job and avoid highways, because even with bright lights on your bike cars like to pass dangerously close to you (and sometimes feel the infuriating need to lay on the horn.) As for ice and such, I couldn't say, I'm from Houston, the coldest it gets here is the 30's. Stick to low traffic routes (even if they are longer) and ride in the middle of the lane not the side, for two reasons: A) cars will see you better, and B) there is less debris there for you to blow a tire on or wipe out on. If you are forced to take highways, then this is less of an option. Still, try to avoid shoulders at night. I've patched countless tubes ruptured by an unseen piece of glass or nail. Good luck with your commute, though, I find it much more rewarding energizing then hitching a ride with a friend. Let me know how it goes.
-Patrick
Oh, and I was reading the other comments, and the hot topic seems to be lights...I use a Cat Eye LED with 5 bulbs on the front for the headlight, and a second Cat Eye taillight for the back, 4 bulbs, I belive. Both work wonderfully and have a variety of flashing functions. The headlight illuminates about 10-15 feet ahead quite nicely (in total darkness.) I switch it over to flashing whenever cars come, and I always have the taillight set to flash. Total cost: $50. Cwiggins fancy lights are nice, to be sure, but in my opinion overpriced and unnecessary. I suppose it could be argued that you can't put a price on safety and ultimate visibility, but I belive that is in the eye of the beholder. However, I strongly agree with the suggestion of a reflective vest. I personally do not own one, but have been meaning to go out and buy one for some time. I have seen firsthand how the reflection off a $25 vest can be brighter than the light of a $150 headlight!
Happy graveyard riding!
-Patrick
OK, as for the die hard riders that are venturing out into the country at night, what lights are you using? I'm talking the big expensive rechargable brick battery mounted on the top tube with the double beacons on front. I'm considering getting one and it's a lot of hooch to drop on something that might not be what I thought.
I need something that can really light the way, I'm talking I'm riding pitch black darkness to work in the mornings so I want to see everything in my path. Thanks for the input.
Smokediver, I have ridden in the darkest of Texas countrysides with naught but a small, five bulb LED. It is made by Cat Eye electronics. Trust me, it is much brighter than it looks, and will cut through the dark like a hot knife through butter. You can't even look directly into it for more than a couple of seconds. And I got the headlight and taillight for about $50. WORTH IT, for you to see in front of you with little difficulty and for cars to see you. Also, reflectors are heavily advised...
-Patrick
PBA:The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way.
Anyone else have this problem?
I've had that problem, but after upgrading to a better light,I've had more luck.
My night commute is a little longer because I take a less travelled route, but that's about it.
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When you're riding at night I reckon the amount of light you need varies a lot.
Cruising city streets - need enough to be seen, most streets have enough lighting to see where you're going once your eyes adjust. cheapo LED flashing light
Low-Flying city streets - need to see where you're going, a bit more light. Decent LED/Halogen light
Cycleways - don't need much unless the moon isn't around, cheapo LED light.
Busy Road - lots of light to be seen. Good flashing LED.
Off Road/Trail/out in the country - as much as you can afford.
I made a system using 2 different downlight globes for high and low beam + 12V lead acid battery years ago. I've just purchased an LED downlight globe now that they put out enough light equiv to 20W that the old low beam put out. My 50W globe used to last about 40min and it's bright enough to have drivers flash their lights at me. 20W was good for off road riding. New globe at 3W should last about 7hrs on the battery about as big as a water bottle. Advantage: good light, cheap, easy to wire up (wire from battery-switch-globe-battery). Disadvantage: heavy battery and a bit big.
Technology has improved in the last few years and you can get fantastic lights if you've got the cash.
I live in north Georgia, and have been doing night rides for years, both as commutes and for training/pleasure. I work swing shifts, so I could be on the road at any time of day. What amazes me more than anything is the number of other riders who take advantage of the low traffic and cooler temperatures that night riding has to offer.
The equipment I use is basic - a bell cycling light and rear blinker, and a leftover reflective vest from my days as a lift-truck driver. I usually avoid main roads at night and stick to the secondarys. The area is also a bit on the redneck side, so even thought most drivers are courteous, there is still the concern that your blinking light may attract a drunk or two.
Common sense and a bit more concentration than in the day make for some great riding at night, especially when the moon if full!
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