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    adamappleby

    Does anyone have these shoes?  If so, what do you think?  I've been running with Saucony Pro Triumph and have been thinking of buying these, but it would basically be a shot in the dark because I can't find a store near me that sells them.  I'm a big guy (6'2", 220) with high arches who supinates.  I've read that these are a good shoe for me and wanted to know what people thought or any other shoes they might recommend.  Thanks me peeps.

     Adam

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    treetrunk28

    Adam,  I am a loyalist to the Saucony brand, but also have found success in the Brooks brand.  I am 5'9", but also 220 pounds, and also am an assistant store manager for an athletic shoe store.

    Your particular foot mold is tough to fit shoes for.  Normally people at our weight typically have lower to flat arches, in which case I would highly recommend the Brooks Beast, a motion control shoe that, quite frankly, is one of the better shoes out there.  For your high arches, these and some insoles would probably do the trick.  

    The Radius 7 is a terrific shoe though.  It's very comparable to Saucony in terms of cushion and width and all-around feel.  If your supination is severe, I would probably go with the Brooks Addiction 7 since it has the same level of cushion, but a flatter outsole to help keep your feet and ankles following though correctly during your stride.

    If you don't supinate that much, the Radius 7 would probably work just fine.  It's always tough, when you shoot in the dark, especially with shoes.  What works for some may work for none.  

    Hopefully this advice helps you.  Is there a reason for the possible switch from the Pro Triumph to the Radius? 

    Nicholas

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberatensmeyer
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
     
    atensmeyer

    Adam,

    I am currently running in my 4th pair of the Brooks Radius (my second pair of the 7's). I love them; however, I have a pretty neutral stride and I'm on the smaller side (5'4", 106 lbs). I have added an over-the-counter orthotic to mine to give some support to my high arches and the combo has been perfect. The Radius is a great cushioning shoe which is good for the pounding that those who tend to supinate often experience. Hope this helps a bit! Good luck in your search!

     Anna

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberKDogg
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008 edited
     
    KDogg

    Here's what I think (a lowly runner who works at a running shoe store):

    The Radius is pretty sweet for a neutral runner and probably for a supinator too. It has a loyal following (see above) and would probably work out for you, if things are as you describe.

    However if you really do supinate (I'd go to a running store to have that verified, almost EVERYONE claims they supinate), then probably the best shoe that I can recommend (based on my experience) is the Brooks Dyad. The Dyad has great outside coverage which is what a true supinator needs.

    Personally, I strike abnormally hard on the outside when I run (as evidenced by gait scanning and being watched by a professional), I've been fit (by myself and by my boss) as a supinator. I use the Brooks Glycerin for long runs and have experienced some success in recommending this to other outside strikers and to those who supinate. On non long run days, I train in regular neutral trainers.

    What I recommend for almost all people with very high arches is an arch support insert called a PowerStep. This is designed to prevent and to correct problems like plantar fasciitis. Those with high arches are prone to those arches flattening out if they don't take care of their arches over the long haul. It might not happen today, it might not happen tomorrow, it might not happen for ten years, but eventually if you don't take care of that, you will probably get plantar fasciitis or heal spurs, and I can promise you it sucks, I hear people complaining about it every single day.

    My ultimate recommendation is for you to go to a running store and have them fit you for shoes. However, if that is not possible and what you say is true, then I would tell you that the Triumph and Radius should both work for you barring any fit issues. (Brooks typically fits pretty close to Saucony, wide toe box, tight heel)

    treetrunk28, I don't want to be confrontational, but the Beast and the Addiction are both VERY STRONG correctional shoes. If a supinator wore those shoes, they would have serious issues with the outside of their feet and also with their IT bands.
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    treetrunk28

    I don't find your comment confrontational Kdogg.  The Beast is pretty extreme, but I wrote about putting an insert in the shoe, which could possibly help.  I don't think I wrote about and insert with the Addiction though, which I am glad you caught me on. 

    In any case, I agree with the comment you made about the Triumph and Radius.  The other cases were meant to be with arch inserts, which it sounds like Adam may need.  You hit the nail on the head with the PowerStep insert and that is probably something that high archers should look into. 

    Of course being avid runners, I think we can all agree that the best thing to do is to be fitted in person, instead of trying to guess which shoes will work, especially given at how technical the shoe companies are making thier shoes these days. 

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    adamappleby
    Thanks for all the responses.  My main underlying problem is I get chronic anterior shin splints.  I've been to several doctors and had several tests.  Custom made inserts and the Saucony shoes have helped a lot.  I'm basically considering just buying the Brooks shoes to see if they're any better.  For some reason the specialty stores nearby don't carry them (or at least haven't whenever I've gone in there).  Actually, all the shoe advice I've gotten from nearby stores has been criticized (to put it lightly) by my podiatrist.  So yeah, I don't know, a work in progress I suppose.  But, I really appreciate all the comments.  Thanks.

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