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    • CommentAuthorFree Membersbadian
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2007
     
    sbadian

    For all you folks who live in nasty winter weather locations - how do you get through the winter with most of your conditioning intact?

    Living in Colorado, it's hard (though not impossible) to ride much through the winter. Last winter was particularly dreadful. If you can't get on your bike, what do you do? There's no way in the world I can spend more than 45 minutes on the rollers so my long endurance rides are few and far between come winter.

    Sharon

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberaju
    • CommentTimeSep 21st 2007
     
    aju
    I run a winter beater MTB with studded tires - done many miles on the polished ice of the unused bike path.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrconnelly
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2007
     
    rconnelly
    Spinning at the gym
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpooksilby
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2007
     
    pooksilby
    Since I'm a lifeguard at the Y in Wisconsin, I swim laps. It's not my first love, but boy does it keep up the endurance over the winter. And it keeps the legs in shape. I absolutely refuse to get on anything stationary
    • CommentAuthorFree Membermattty
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2007 edited
     
    mattty

     

    Head to the Gym its what the best thing to  past the winter time.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberechunter
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2007
     
    echunter
    I ride as long as I can. I live in the snowbelt of upstate NY. We were the town on the news last year. Even with all that snow, I rode all the way until January 7 when the real snow started. I have hybrid bike when the snow makes the roads crappy. I run more in the winter than any other time of year. I really like running in the snow and cold. In the end, its all about how much you are willing to put up with and how much road crap you are will to allow your bike to go through.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberluvgr8mnds
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2007
     
    luvgr8mnds

    It's Arizona here...we ride a little later in the day...when it's about 70.

    --sorry, couldn't resist!

     

     

  1.  
    rememberwhentallahassee

    Sorry, I'm in Florida!  We have to be careful during the summer - especially running or walking but the winters are ideal.  I have gotten wind burn walking on the coldest days. 

     I guess I would spin at the gym if I couldn't ride outside just to keep my legs moving.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermtnman
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2007
     
    mtnman

    Look at a fluid trainer. I invested in a Kurt's Kenetic because during the winter months I have no time to get on the road. It eliminates the point of failure of the shaft seal barrier by using a magnetic coupling.

    Also came with a DVD containing three 30 min programs anyone of which will , each has a diff. focus, break a sweat or do all three, You will come through the winter in fine shape.

     http://www.kurtkinetic.com/index.php

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberGrantB
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2007
     
    GrantB
    Have you thought of cross training?  You can run outside in the winter more easily than you can ride sometimes.  I know you can run in the winter because when I go home to Canada at Christmas I alway run outside.  You can also try cross country skiing, speed skating, snowshoeing.... even downhill skiing since you are in an ideal state to do it.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberxcskimt
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2007
     
    xcskimt
    I live in WI and the snow in the last couple of years has been lack luster.  I just dress warm and pull out the the mountain or cyclo-cross bike.  Hopefully, this year the ski season will be awesome.  I plan on skiing as much as possible.  I am also a runner and do most of my long runs and base mileage during the winter.  Most of my running goals are early in the season and switch over to biking in the summer.  Just get outside.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberThebeez
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Thebeez
    Our winters are pretty mild here (Mississippi) compared to yours however we do have a lot of rain.  I go to the gym and work on strength training, I ride the trainer, I do some hiking, and a little running.  I believe the key is to stay active.  I had rather be on my bike but doing something is better than sitting on the couch getting fat.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjsulk
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2007
     
    jsulk
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    For all you folks who live in nasty winter weather locations - how do you get through the winter with most of your conditioning intact?

    Living in Colorado, it's hard (though not impossible) to ride much through the winter. Last winter was particularly dreadful. If you can't get on your bike, what do you do? There's no way in the world I can spend more than 45 minutes on the rollers so my long endurance rides are few and far between come winter.

    Sharon

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjsulk
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2007
     
    jsulk
    For us living in the carolinas, we don't have the weather that some do. I change the time of day to ride to the afternoon so it's warmer and put the bike in a trainer and watch Carmichael dvd's .
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTrotters
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2007
     
    Trotters
    Getting ready to run knee-deep, as opposed to the usual ankle-deep, in various mush. Roll on spring.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberGrizz
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007 edited
     
    Grizz
    Your winter is our summer in the Southern Hemisphere, wouldn't it be lovely to be able to travel to either Australia or New Zealand, in NZ we have 90 million sheep and just over 4 million people, the South Island has 1 million people so if you are riding down that way, there is not much traffic at all and the scenery is stunning.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membercbrandes
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    cbrandes
    I live in Upstate NY just South of Lake Ontario. It snows here forever. I keep moving everyday in the winter on an old Cannondale mtn. bike with Studded tires and lots of washing to keep the bike from seizing up due to salt corrosion. I have to oil and adjust it often to ensure I won't have a problem on the roads. If I do have a flat(and I have!) its usually too cold to try to fix the problem and I have to call for a ride. Since getting good studded tires though, I haven't had a flat (which was usually the problem). Their heavy and built from thick rubber but its worth it not to be stuck.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbrotherj
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
     
    brotherj

    I live in central Ohio so winter is not too intense. I built up a second wheel set with studded snow tires for my MTB and acquire sufficient layers of clothing.

    Now I put the wheels on the bike according to the weather, lay out my clothes and dress up and go in the morning. 

    • CommentAuthorHero!!Shakleeman
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     
    Shakleeman
    I live in northeast Georgia so there are some days that we can get out and ride.  I have taken over the den with my fluid trainer and my Giant Cypress.  Ride for an hour or more, watch some TV, and get out and ride on Saturday and/or Sunday when the weather is decent.  We had snow yesterday and I got in a hundred yards on the OCR2 - had to meet a dare about riding in the snow.  Sure am glad they did not dare me with a distance.Cool teamsboss.blogspot.com for proof.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membercrtrnr
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     
    crtrnr
    SKI GOGGLES
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberchambersk
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     
    chambersk

    It usually stays pretty mild here in northern Virginia, at least until mid-January.  I do pretty well with micro fiber gloves, 'excursion grade' leggings, a wool sweater under my North Face hard shell and a hat.  For temperatures below mid 30's I also carry some chemical toe/foot warmers that I put in my shoes. 

    Limit your rest breaks to aboslute necessity -  you freese up fast when you stop working.  I also find using warm water in my hydradtion pack helps. Never take your gloves off - even if your hands feel hot.  Once your fingers get cold it seems impossible to warm them up again.

     Enjoy the moment -  you be lamenting the unbearable heat soon enough!

    KFC

    • CommentAuthorFree Membergophish11
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2008
     
    gophish11
    Coastal Northern Cali...we ride in 35 degree salty rain, complain, then do it again!  If it's too bad, we've got a good gym at Humboldt State with bikes, rock wall, and whatever else strikes your fancy.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberhoovis
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2008
     
    hoovis

     

    dude, suck it up, get some warm clothes, and use vaseline.  if you dress properly, you can ride  down to 0 degrees F as long as the roads are dry.

     and remember, vaseline is your friend.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberSkiBike
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2008
     
    SkiBike

    rollers are your best bet if you dont want to go outside.  Just pop on a movie to get longer rides in.  Besides that I would cross train in the winters, get some time off the bike. 

    I live in upstate NY (the north country) in Canton, about 2 hours north of syracuse.  I sped a lot of time in the trainer and also just have fun.  I keep general fitness, hit the weights heavy, play squash, swim, all sorts of cross training activities.  Come warm weather I will be spending more then enough time on the bike.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlarryr
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2008
     
    larryr
    I'm in Idaho, so we also get a few months of unfriendly bike weather.  I head to the Nordic trails.  Skate skiing is a great aerobic and strength workout, plus you get the benefits of high altitude training.  At first I did it just for something to do, but now it's become addictive and I look forward to the off-bike season as much as I look forward to the spring bike training.  I think it's as much mental as physical, and is healthy to take a break from the bike.
  2.  
    wileyokiley
    I hit the pool quite often during the winter, but only because I live next to the ocean (NH) and the roads are usually pretty icy. If there's just snow or slush (but no ice), I tend to run--but if the roads are clear, there's no reason to stay off of the bike! I suppose it can be summed up like this: Ice => Swim ; Only Snow/Slush => Run ; Cold but clear => Bike . That said, when I was living in Moscow last February, I sucked it up and joined a gym! Sometimes, you've just got to make a judgement call (;
  3.  
    LukePickering

    Get a fixie and get stuck in.

    You might only be able to ride 30mins-1hr but you'll feel like you've done a lot more.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermikep
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008
     
    mikep
    Treadmill and eliptical at the gym.  Also i snowboard atleast one day a week all winter/spring.  Not much for endurance but it certainly gives your quads and calves a workout.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlahargis
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
     
    lahargis

    I am in Wyoming.  I increase my spinning during the winter, but I also use the arc traininer, true strider, tread mill, elliptical machines a lot more.  When spring comes around, we gradually work up our riding outdoors to our century rides.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorHero!!leehead4
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2008
     
    leehead4

    In southern California, if it rains, it's winter. Other than that its pretty much the same all year with the exception of the later summer months when it gets up to he 90s. In the winter, we put on arm / leg warmers and then peel them off after a few miles. In the summer, we ride earlier in the mornng.  The training stand is reserved for those days mid week when you don't have enough time for a real ride.   

     

  4.  
    Ascentionist

    I personally don't believe in pretend training to get in better shape for real activities. Treadmills and stationary bike bore me beyond imagination. I don't enjoy them so I don't use them.

    I ride. 

    I moved to Golden, CO from Kentucky this past winter in February. The drier air made it much easier to ride on much colder days. I commuted 7 miles one way a couple days a week all winter down to the low teens and sometimes beyond.

    I abstained on days when there was snow on the road or days when the wind was extremely fierce, but otherwise I didn't shy away from the cold. I did invest in some thermal tights and I have a good solid shell that I wear, as well as a balaclava and somewind resistant gloves. Oh, shoe covers make the biggest difference too.

    Having said all that I must quantify it by saying that I burn hot. I have an overactive metabolism and I can stay warm in the coldest weather as long as I keep moving. But even then, the key is to dress in layers, be ready for adverse conditions and enjoy being outside when no one else is willing to do it. 

    If the weather is just too nasty to ride, I run. I can run in any weather at any time of the year. It is a great fall back activity for me.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membercthatter
    • CommentTimeSep 8th 2008
     
    cthatter

    Don't stop when it starts getting cold - just add more clothes and make sure your ears, fingers and toes are well insulated. With a bit of trial and error you can work out what number of layers work in which temperatures - write it down so you just need to check the thermometer and dress accordingly. I'm in Connecticut and ride on the road through the winter, only not going out when it's icy.  On icy days I hit the rowing machine or if it's a weekend get my mountain bike out and head into the woods.  If you accept that the first mile is uncomfortably cold it doesn't take long to get warm.  

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberGateOfZion
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2008
     
    GateOfZion

    I'm in Philly and I ride through the winter.  Last year - in total - I did not miss a day of biking to work (8.2 miles one way).  Some days were pretty cold, but I grew up in the Poconos and my theory is that if I would snowboard in it, I could put on the same gear and bike.  I do have a junker bike to handle all the snow and slush and salt that wears the bike out though.  I wear: goggles (when needed due to precipitation), lands-end shoe-style boots (the only thing I found that sufficiently kept my feet both warm and dry), and my snow-boarding pants, coat, face mask, and gloves.  My 5th graders laugh if they ever stay late at school and see me leave.  I admit, I must be a sight to see.  But, I am proud to say that I do it.  With all my padding I feel even more protected against the crazy drivers of the world. I also keep extra toasty toes in my bag and use them very regularly!

     

    Do I like the winter?  No, I despise it!  I keep thinking of moving south to accommodate my commuting by bicycle.  However, as unpleasant as it might be, it is possible :-)

     

    I agree with the last poster though - you must accept that the initial start will be unpleasant, and, on some days, much more than the start will be pleasant, but it won't kill you and those who must work in the cold all day wave like you are their long lost cousin!

     

    Kristy

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjonesy792
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2008
     
    jonesy792
    The best riding in Arizona is during the winter, although I do put on thermals during morning rides when it gets down to the 50's or 40's. Smile
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRoyrolla
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2008
     
    Royrolla

    When it gets down to the 40s or 50s? HA..todays hi was 40, I went for a run this 5am and it was 32 degrees out...It has not even began to get cold here in good ole Missouri.

     me

  5.  
    cannondale_25

    During the week when there is no remaining daylight after work, I take the dog for a really long/brisk 1.5 hour walk.  Once I get home from the walk, I hit the gym for 30-45 minutes alternating days with weights and cardio.  When the weekend rolls around, if it's 27+ degrees, I'll go for a road ride - below 27 degrees, and I typically hit the mountain bike trails......

     We do sometimes get snow here in Illinois, so once it snows, I'm either hitting the x-country skis or snowshoes pretty hard.

     There is life outside of the bike - remember this mantra and biking in the spring will feel that much more fun once that time rolls around again!

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberWA1LBK
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2008
     
    WA1LBK

     Living in southeastern MA, our winters vary between comparatively mild & absolutely NASTY!  Yell  I ride a Cannondale "Easy Rider" recumbent Cool ; although it's primarily a road bike, it has a full suspension, uses BMX - style tires & can be ridden on hard-packed dirt.  I'm primarily a road & rail-trail rider; I live @ 10 miles from RI's excellent East Bay Bike Trail, usually prefer to ride there.  I do the "layered clothing" bit, but my lower temp limit for outdoor riding is @ 45 degrees; I finished up an 18 - mile ride this afternoon (it was 42 when I finished!Undecided ), so the hot bathtub felt really good afterwards!Smile

     Once it gets much colder, I'll start using a stationary recumbent down at the local gym to try to stay somewhat conditioned.  (Although I'll agree with a lot of the other comments about stationary bikes; I typically go out for @ 1 hour & 25 min. to do my 18-mile trip, like to do at least one 30+ mile ride a week during the warmer months, longest ride so far in a single day has been 61 miles on the Cape Rail Trail - but I get bored silly in 20 minutesFrown on the stationary recumbent!).

     I also swim year-round at the local gym (try to do at least 3 miles / week, more if I have the time).  Tried using an elliptical there for the first time last winter, might use it some more this coming winter.  Running, unfortunately, is not an option;  I suffered a broken right kneecap (absolutely NASTY injury!Cry) just over 5 years ago, & the right knee is still slightly stiff (the biking helps!Smile).  I tried running for the first time in years about a week ago (just doing laps around the gym basketball court, less pounding than a treadmill), but the bad knee started "complaining"Undecided after a single lap.  Also, I don't bike if there's any snow on the ground.  (Don't want to risk further injury to the bad knee!).

     I should also add that I'm not particuarly a "youngster" - will be 56 in 2 months!Wink

                                                                                                          Tom

     

     

  6.  
    JonathanPorter
    In the UK we get more rain than snow and we don't get the bitterly cold weather you guys can get in some latitudes of the States.  I do a variety of training.  Yes some on a turbo trainer, but I have a Tacx VR system so I can pretend I'm riding video routes or against myself in the Tacx 'world' called Atlantis.  Otherwise it's to the gym doing spin sessions or Body Pump for core stability and strength.  But these just don't come up to the feelin' of having done a damn good ride in fairly shitty weather when others wimped out!
    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!sgerber
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2008
     
    sgerber

    I live in Minnesota. Up until last year I did the indoor trainer thing (Kurt kenetic is the best), swam billions of laps, and xc skiied when the snow conditions would allow.

    I love to ride. I live to ride. So last year I sucked it up, bought some cold weather gear and rode as much as i could when it was above zero. That was the point where I decided my gear wasn't warm enough.

    I did thre studded tires thing on an old Gitane (1985 vintage). I had to modify brakes but otherwise everything was cool.  They plow the bike trails around here for the walkers so I tired to stay off the road as much as posible when commuting. When out for a fun ride I rode the dirt roads in the farm country to the west of  me. Dang that was fun.

    Up keep on the bike was a lot of work but I love that sort of thing. I'm a bike mechanic wannabe.

    Best advice - Nike had it right - JUST DO IT!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberaenlaasu
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2008
     
    aenlaasu

    I live in Sweden, about an hour north of Stockholm.  While the temps don't stop me from cycling, snow and ice will.  I have a recumbent trike with a very low chain clearance.  After ruining a rear derailleur because it was catching spikes of ice, I've had to concede defeat to the winter.  Even when it's not bashing on ice, it's scooping snow and freezing the chain.

     Beyond that, I've sort of accepted that I'm going to lose condition unless I get a trainer.  With my back, walking more than half an hour a day is not good and 3 hours a week of walking is not in any way going to replace 15 to 20 hours a week of cycling.

     Fortunately, our winters have been insanely mild.  We did get over 2 feet of snow last week, but now it's gone and I've gotten a couple rides in.  Yesterday was 33 degrees while I did 20 miles.  I have ridden as low as 22 degrees.  Not often it's gotten colder than that.  At least not without a pile of snow and ice.

     If I had more chain clearance so that rutted ice or fluffy snow wasn't a disaster waiting to happen, I'd slap on studded tires and suck it up.

     Oh, before anyone suggests me getting a 'normal bike', the reason I have a 'bent is because I can't ride an upright bike.  I sort of like riding _and_ not eating pain meds like candy for the next couple of weeks. ;)

  7.  
    shrimperboy
     Although its getting pretty cold, it mainly the rain that’s the problem for us. Drain and manholes covers just waiting to give you a little fright every now and then.Visited Denver earlier this year and saw lot of cyclist making the tough climb up the Buffallo Bill Memorial Centre. Can any Denver rider’s tell me how long it takes?? Cheers Mark
    • CommentAuthorFree Membergrittsm8
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2008
     
    grittsm8
    what do you do for your feet in the cold weather? I went riding the other day and it was 27 degrees out and my toes were frozen solid. any suggestions.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberaenlaasu
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
     
    aenlaasu

    Shoe covers!  I have a pair of neoprene shoe covers that cost maybe 15 bucks.  They cover the tops of your feet with a strap that goes under the arch of your foot, but otherwise leaves the bottom of your shoe clear.  My feet are generally the warmest part of me with those.

     Terii

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberC5FCC
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2008
     
    C5FCC
    Got a few words for ya. Big screen tv, with surround sound, bike, trainer and over 1,000 dvd's of different genres. When I want to work on distance I put in comedies, speed I do action. Sometimes I just throw something in and ride to it. I also go to the gym, and my trainer has started me on a cross training program. Who would have thunk it but I'm actually running which I detest.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberSpiran
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2008
     
    Spiran

    Sadly I don't get through the winter. I just got my Trek 1.2 and am Worried about damaging it by riding in adverse wather conditions. I rode my last bike through the winter and it hardly made it out the other side.

     I ride when it is dry, but I can only ride out of school time, which by this time of year is dark. This is not ideal. Sometimes it gets so cold that my fingers freeze up, I think it adds to the thrill and pure joy of cycling.

     So I can ride about two rides a week, I hate not being out.

     Weekends are my personal jesus, but they are usually icy or wet. Its like Mother nature is working against me, as usual (headwinds whatever direction you go in).

    • CommentAuthorHero!!kaikai
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2008
     
    kaikai

    we have 2 feet of snow on the ground, and I live in a rural area with very narrow, hilly and winding roads (made more narrow by snowbanks). We never really get down to clear pavement in the winter. It was -6 when I drove my husband to the train this morning - windchill today is forecast to be about 5 degrees (harsh with the blowing snow, even in the sun). If we get a good day of melting, I'll take the mountain bike out (but spend as much time cleaning the salt & sand off as I do actually riding it). It's kind of just not worth it. Instead I'll hike, snowshoe, or XC ski when I can. The gym on crappy days. The trainer in the basement on snowbound days. We're working on getting a TV and a dvd player set up in the basement, but until then I drag the lap top down there to watch videos, or I'll stream a movie from netflix. I was getting into a good groove down there, but then the power went out for several days. 

    This year is kind of a drag because I'm just about 6 months pregnant at this point. It's getting uncomfortable on the trainer (belly isn't exactly in the way, but the up stroke just doesn't feel right in my abdomen - core muscles are all just weird at this point). Maybe I'll get a slick for the mtn. bike so I'm more upright on the trainer. I also have to be really careful about falling, which rules out anything on potentially icy roads. I'm now resorting to yoga DVDs, and getting to the gym when I can. Snowshoeing & skiing are still working thus far, though. The big pregnancy joke, however, is that its "recommended" that I get 10 minutes of walking exercise a day! A whole 10 minutes! What, exactly, is THAT supposed to accomplish for anyone? I figure 1.5 hours of snowshoeing will have to do instead. And some shoveling. And some XC skiing. At least it helps with balance.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!khenderson
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2008
     
    khenderson
      Michigan has the same winter issues as most of you. I am looking out the window at 8-10 inches of snow and it is raining out. Not exactly prime riding weather. The winter is a good time for cross training. Time to get muscles you don't use as much into the game. Swimming laps, treadmill, elliptical and any indoor sports you can think of. Riding a trainer indoors is obviously a way but it can be boring unless you can shut your brain off.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberraylemond
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    raylemond

    I finally received an indoor trainer for X-mas that I've always wanted but didn't want to spend the money.  The first part of the last year started out great with almost 70 mi a week outside (Good for me, father of three, all swimmers which is time consuming all year long, full time job).  Then the rides went South: my partner quit riding, kid's swim meets got hectic, busy at work construction season,and then of course the Summer party season...In the Fall I was lucky to get out once a month.  I must have been good last year because the wife got me an indoor trainer (Cyclops Fluid) for X-mas and I've only missed 1 day!  It came with a Robby Ventura DVD of the Downers Grove, Illinois Race which I've  witnessed in person so that was really cool!  I'll switch it up and use my i-pod once awhile...it feels good to sweat again.  And the best part is that I'm down 7 lbs. since X-mas...and I needed that!  Come on Spring!!!

    • CommentAuthorFree Membercww53132
    • CommentTime4 days ago
     
    cww53132

    Normally Cross Country Skiing and hitting the gym this year I got a great trainer and plan to use my Swiss ball to work on my lack of abs. I may even get those abs this year! I hope to ride earlier this spring I'll have to dress better for it. More layers better outer ware. Mother Nature might be kind to us and we get an early spring.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberadmangia
    • CommentTime4 days ago
     
    admangia
    There is a great way to get through winter and that is create your own Iditabike event. LAst week I attached a 12ft rope to a plastic sled and pulled my three children around town for a couple hours in about 4 inches of fresh snow. I did not even use studded tires. The rear tire pressure was about 30psi and grabbed well. I do this same arrangement every winter on the frozen pond with homemade spiked ice tires. I took #6 sheet metal screwws and put them inot some cheap Walmart Mtn. Bike tires with an aggressive lug pattern. Ths was backed with some "tuffy" linersor Duct tape works fine. Of course use common sense when on the ice and be prepared. I often go were the ice fisherman are and discuss ice thickness with them first. There is no riding over areas were there is current and clipless pedals are not used as well. The serenity and workout are incredible along with building stamina in adverse conditons. I also pull the kids on the perimeter of the ice as well and this is loads of fun and again an amazing workout. Some people snow shoe and others ride the ice!