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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpbenes
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
     
    pbenes
    I like to take long rides, but i dont like not being able to listen to music. I figure it wouldn't be so bad if i don't put the music loud so i can hear cars, kind of like what i do when i am running. any input??
    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipgoofy
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
     
    goofy
    I use an ipod nano with a Sony BT wireless transmitter and Motorola S9 wireless headphones. The nano and the Sony wireless transmitter are small and light. The transmitter is about the size of a quarter and plugs into the botton of the nano. It draws its power from the nano so you don't have to worry about charging it seperatly. The nano will last for 10-12 hours on a charge so you can ride all day on one charge. I just wrap the nano in a hanky and put it under my sleeve or in an arm band. They work great with the Motorola S9 wireless headphones. You can control the nano from the headphones. There are controlls on the headphone for volumn, pause, song skip forward and skip back. I also like not having the hassle of having to deal with the cord from wired head phones. I usually set the volumn on the headphones so I can still hear the traffic. Enjoy your ride.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberMarley239
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
     
    Marley239

    I used to ride with an IPod but I stopped. Don't get me wrong it's great motivation when I'm listening to Marley, however, I had a couple mishaps with cars and now i want to hear them coming earlier. Also, I feel it takes away from hearing the wind ripping and the enjoyment of the ride. But you know, there is no problem with the volume on low and a little music to hear.You could also try one ear with a headphone!?

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  1.  
    Saratoga Cycling Club

     Just wanted to add a comment on this. Just as when you are driving your car, it is illegal to wear headphones and listen to music while operating a vehicle in most states.. and a bicycle is a vehicle. Plus, it's not a very good idea..you need all of your senses working for you while you're out riding. I started road riding in 1983 and in that time i have been hit twice, both from the rear and neither time did I hear the car coming until the last second. Fortunately I was able to react in enough time to lessen the impact. Had I been wearing earphones or even one earphone, as some think is ok....I'd probably not be here. Your best bet is leave the i-pod home, enjoy your ride safely and get home in one piece. The only other thing I can add is that if you can't ride without music in your ears to motivate you, then cycling isn't for you...try running or some other activity that doesn't have the risks of battling 4000 lbs. of metal coming at you at 40mph. Leave the music in Spin class where it belongs.

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlahargis
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
     
    lahargis

    We do long intense rides where traffic is at 55-75mph.  No, I am not going to listen to tunes.  Just too dangerous.

  2.  
    stevecycle

    I tried riding with my nano once this season, on a ride I considered "safe".  It was a century out in the country where there was little traffic.  I rode with the open-style ear-buds, not the type that silence external noise, and I tried to keep the volume low. 

    While I did enjoy having music with me for the long ride, it did significantly reduce my awareness of the occasional car and other riders on the route.  I decided I will not ride with an iPod again.

    Steve

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    DaddyRides
    That's like going out without a helmet. Way too risky...
    • CommentAuthorFree Membernzpostie
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
     
    nzpostie

    Don't do it!!!!!!

    Is it really worth risking your life for the sake of a bit of music?  Cars are dangerous things and drivers rarely consider cyclists.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberthegimp
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
     
    thegimp

    after being runover on my bike and going through a taxi windscreen (which bloody hurt) i would suggest the more you can see and hear the less chance you have of getting squashed.

    its not worth it

    you do not want to experiance the same as me

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberleehead4
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
     
    leehead4
    I've ridden with people from both schools of thought on this topic. Personaly, I love to have the music to carry me through some of the tougher metal moments of the ride but I try to keep it to a minimum. It is illegal and very dangerous having both ears plugged while riding on the road in traffic. However, riding on bike trails is a different story. I would still recommend setting the volume low as it is important to hear other cyclists approaching or shouting out warnings.  
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    howiepumpkin

    Whats it matter how loud you have your music. If their going to hit you their going to hit you. It will be from behind so if they cannot avoid you then its not going to make a difference wheather you hear em coming or not. Music doesn't cause the problems lorry and car drivers do. I use ipod classic with armband. I'm able to control track selection volume and cable management. Its great. Cyclist's need music. and sunshine. Enjoy your rides......

     

  5.  
    davidalanco

    I kind of have to agree with howiepumpkin... If you're getting hit... you're getting hit. 

    Use a mirror so you can be aware of traffic, if you're not blaring the music you can still hear cars.

    I have riden both ways and don't feel uncomfortable either way... but goodness... if you're feeling convicted about listen to music... don't do it.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermvictor82
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    mvictor82
    I listen to my zune on full blast and still know when the cars are coming. I live in Western Washington and have been passed by many police officers, so obviously they don't view my listening to music as a problem. And I don't wear a helmet either, though that is because I hate not being able to feel the wind on my head and more practically there are none that fit my tiny head besides toddler helmets (my head is that small) and I'm not riding around in a Dora helmet or wearing a heavy knit cap in summer just so that it fits enough not to fall over my eyes while I'm riding.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberCyclezero
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2008
     
    Cyclezero
    In KC we have an airport used by private planes. The loop around the airport is only partially open to traffic. I'll wear an ipod when I do laps here, but never on the open road.
    • CommentAuthorChampionship MembershipBen P.
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2008
     
    Ben P.

    i listen to music or talk radio almost always when i ride and am able to hear all cars perfectly, just use one cheep earphone, and you'll be perfectly safe, but always where a helmet, ALWAYS, be safe, love riding, love life

    -Ben

    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershiptwinhulls
    • CommentTimeAug 10th 2008
     
    twinhulls
    I train mostly alone, and wanted to listen to music. I bought a speaker called an i home 2 go.It fits on the bike, then ipod fits inside. Rideing with earbuds is ileagle in my state. The speaker came from Apple store.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbiggiff
    • CommentTimeAug 10th 2008
     
    biggiff
    I think there is a another problem as well. Yes, it does cut down on what you can hear around you but even worse, it can absorb your attention. If you starte "getting into" a song your attentiveness to your riding is lessened which is very dangerous. Riding, running or even walking while inattentive is a bad thing.
    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipgoofy
    • CommentTimeAug 10th 2008
     
    goofy

    I have been reading the comments with much interest since my first post and think I need to expand my reply. First off, I only listen to music if I'm riding alone. Safety is important. The earphones I use do not go in the ear so, as I said, I can still hear the traffic. Also, I use a rear view mirror to see what's comming up behind me. Even without listening to music, there are times when you can't hear an approaching car because of wind or because the newer cars are a lot quiter. A Prius running on elcectric for example. Personally, I think anyone who bikes without a rearview mirror is taking a much bigger risk than someone who listens to music.

    I also don't listen to music if I'm biking in heavy city traffic. But when I'm in a rural area and it's just me, God, and the cows, I see no problem with listening to music. The bottom line is if your careful and bike responsibly, listening to music is not going to kill you. Just use a little common sense and enjoy the ride.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlcoffey
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2008
     
    lcoffey

    Regardless of wether you use any sort of walkman or not, imagine what its going to be like with everyone going around with those sub 30mph silent electric cars and modern tires that are designed to not loose as much energy through sound and heat!

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    Ascentionist

    Just as when you are driving your car, it is illegal to wear headphones and listen to music while operating a vehicle in most states.. and a bicycle is a vehicle.

    I agree, though i had never thought of it that way. I do listen to my cheap mp3 player when I ride (vehemently opposed to iAnything). I try to limit it and sometimes will listen on the way to work, but not on the way home.

     I try to keep my volume low and turn the thing completely off when there is the possiblilty of traffic.

    I ride at times when lights and/or other cues will let me know that cars are nearby, and I also ride on paths and bike lanes quite a bit so I don't feel as unsafe (though I completely understand the risk) while listening.

    The bulk of my riding is in the city (Denver area) but when I go out of town into more rural areas I often leave the music at home. But then again, if it's just me and the road and a lot of climbing ahead of me i like to have some music.

     Having said all that, I do agree that it being illegal in a vehicle should apply to cyclists as well, if we want to be considered as vehicles with all the same rights as other vehicles on the road (I do).

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    bigspender007

    I have just order this speaker for the ipod which allows you to ride with your ipod and without the need for headphones. http://store.apple.com/us/product/TN914LL/A?fnode=home/shop_ipod/ipod_accessories/speakers&mco=MTYwMTM

    The reviews are very promising and having being hit once on my bike I think it is safer than headphones.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberipedal
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2008
     
    ipedal
    Can someone clarify how me wearing my earphones is increasing my chance of being hit from behind? Do you really want to hear the brakes locking up when it happens? I've worn them for years. Recently rode without them turned on for awhile and was surprised at how little I could hear behind me until a car was right up on me, passing me. I ride in the country with cars zipping by at 55+. Most move over and make room...and I appreciate that. I don't think not wearing the music is going to give me an edge in winning the battle of bike vs. car. Do you think the rear-approaching motorist is going to be hanging out the window screaming: "Hey, you on the bike, I'm an unsafe driver who doesn't realize if I hit you I'm going to jail." " And since I've never ridden a bike on the side of a road I don't know how dangerous it is for cars like mine to pass so close to you." I doubt you'll ever hear that. So keep the music blaring if you want. The guy behind the wheel doesn't know if you have phones in your ears...he's either keeping your safety in mind or he isn't. No MP3 player is going to change that. 
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTimmyH
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2008
     
    TimmyH
    In line with ipedal...what's the justification particularly for the "it is illegal to wear headphones and listen to music while operating a vehicle" position? Surely it's not because you can't hear whats going on outside the vehicle....what do deaf people do for goodness sake?
    • CommentAuthorBronze membershipAlanLucas
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2008
     
    AlanLucas

    I'm a music junkie, but I don't ride with headphones/music because:

    1. It's illegal
    2. I can't hear the cars/other bikes as well.
    3. I can't hear my own bike as well.

    If something's going on with my bike, or it starts making a funny noise, I want to know about it as soon as possible. You can hear the hiss of a flat a lot easier without having your ears plugged up.

    I feel like there are way too many other things going on around me that I need to react to or be aware of that I don't need the distraction of music. If I really need some music, I just sing to myself. :)

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberchiprako
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2008 edited
     
    chiprako
    I'm sick & tired of all you hall-monitor bike-safety weenies. "Waaa, you gotta wear a helmet!  Waaa, you can't use earbuds!  Waaa, you can't send a text!  Waa, you can't smoke crack!  Waaa!"  Leave the rest of us alone, whydontcha!?!
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    bigredallez

    I find using an apple shuffle(compact in size)-clipped onto jersey zipper on low volume gives you the ability to still hear surrounding outside sounds while listing to the soundtrack to american flyers-best of both worlds  I also have been passed up by several police cars with no interest in pulling over a bicyclist-not exactly a high priority for them.

    • CommentAuthorChampionship MembershipZayce
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2008
     
    Zayce

    I listen to my music a lot while riding but I use this speaker called an ibike. I picked it up from Target. It uses the head phone jack to plug in your ipod. The iHome 2go wouldn't work for me since I have a shuffle. The ibike will mount onto your handle  bars for most bikes.

        I never where head phones unless I am riding to school in the mornings but never on the way home since it is busier with more cars. Also, when you are in groups it is just rude to listen to your music and completely ignore the other bikers. head phones are really dangerous when riding on the road so I should probably stop. 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbrimill68
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
     
    brimill68
    I just cut up an old leather case i had lying around for my Palm Treo and strapped it to my stem. I can slip the Treo in when I go ride, and out when I'm done. The Treo has internal speakers, so I don't need earbuds. It's just loud enough to hear even with mild wind noise around me. At really high speeds though, the wind noise just cuts it down to... well, noise. I can still hear just about everything around me... cars, dogs, etc... and there's nothing in my ears. When I slower down, the music fades back in over the noise. Listening to music this way is fine for me, since I don't have to hear it all (podcasts are another matter). Usually it just takes a few bars get it in my head, then all the external noise isn't an issue. Of course, it eats up my battery listening to music this way. I'd be interested in checking out those iBike speakers. Sounds nice.
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    toekneebullard

    I don't use my mp3 player simply out of respect for drivers.  I know a lot of them don't like me being there, so instead of being all smug I let them know that I'm giving traffic my full attention.  Seeing a cyclist with headphones makes me think he/she isn't aware of what's going on around them.

    Music is a huge part of my life, but sometimes you just need to listen to the world aroudnyou.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberma_leaman
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
     
    ma_leaman
    I like to listen to music while I ride also.  But I do make sure to only have one of the ear buds in and it is always the one in my right ear.  I think this still allows me to hear traffic coming without much of a problem. 
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjcchin
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
     
    jcchin
    The problem with Chiprako's position is the same problem with motorcylists' arguments that they shouldn't have to wear helmets and if they smear their brains all over the road that's their business.  If that were the only consequence, then sure, go ahead and live dangerously.  But we have a very effective but very expensive first-response system and who pays for this when you get airlifted to the nearest hospital and spend a couple of days in ICU?  You're not only playing with your health and safety, you're risking other people who might try to avoid you (think of motorists who crash b/c they don't want to hit a deer) and incurring medical expenses that everyone else has to bear.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberMk1Racer
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2008
     
    Mk1Racer
    TimmyH:In line with ipedal...what's the justification particularly for the "it is illegal to wear headphones and listen to music while operating a vehicle" position? Surely it's not because you can't hear whats going on outside the vehicle....what do deaf people do for goodness sake?

     

    Not sure about where you're from, but I think if you check in most states, you can't get a driver's license if you're deaf.

     

    And to Chiprako, I have no problem with your position provided that you're treated the same way people that don't wear seatbelts are treated.  If you're in an accident, and you're not wearing your seatbelt, the responsibility for your injuries is on you.  That includes the medical expenses. I could care less if you do things that put you at risk of being injured, just don't expect someone else (including your insurance company) to pick up the tab should you get hurt.

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    grandvalleydave

    Wow. All these sticklers for the law! And I bet you never roll a stop sign on a ride. Come on...

    I use my iPhone while I ride. I keep the volume low enough that I can just hear it when I am at my typical speed. I stick one ear bud in my right ear and leave the other out. That way I can hear traffic from the back and the front depending on how I scan around with my head. When I signal drivers by looking back over my shoulder, I also can hear perfectly well. I feel as safe as I can be on skinny tires, a thin layer of spandex, gloves, glasses and a helmet between me and the hard road and speeding cars.

    I train much better with music. Especially when I listen to music that has the same tempo as the heart rate I am targeting. And if it helps keep me in the saddle longer and more effectively, it is helping keep me healthy and happy.

    The iPhone has the added advantage of being a phone for emergencies and now I can run Distance on it and upload my training to MapMyRide.com. I find that I spend less time checking the bike computer and that is probably a safety bonus.

    I admit that there is a little more risk listening to music while I ride, but I consider it proportionately such a small risk above what I am already doing that it isn't worth stressing over.

    "The road goes on forever and the party never ends..." - Robert Earl Keen

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberNolimitsE7
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2008
     
    NolimitsE7
    I get the feeling that some people dont like the idea of it because of there own thoughts on what rideing should be. I dont judge others on what they do but as far as safety goes, if you have to have music use speakers in a groop there shouldent be any because you know that retard that just has to be at the front of the groop is going to be the one to fall and take you out so for safty and educute dont use them, the vehicle law thats been qouted so many times, from what ive read only applys to moterized vehicles but that may change state to state seeing the more spacific road laws are controled by the state
    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipwightboi
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2008
     
    wightboi
    I listen to music, but with my left ear exposed (only put the right ear bud in)  I generally try to ride where traffic is limited - it's just not worth the risk... if I DO have to ride with traffic i take both buds out
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberPJ_Thorn
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2008
     
    PJ_Thorn
    I'm way to paranoid about traffic in my area to not hear them coming as far as possible. I save my ipod for the gym during the cold months.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTimmyH
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008 edited
     
    TimmyH
    TimmyH:In line with ipedal...what's the justification particularly for the "it is illegal to wear headphones and listen to music while operating a vehicle" position? Surely it's not because you can't hear whats going on outside the vehicle....what do deaf people do for goodness sake?

     

    Not sure about where you're from, but I think if you check in most states, you can't get a driver's license if you're deaf.

    And to Chiprako, I have no problem with your position provided that you're treated the same way people that don't wear seatbelts are treated.  If you're in an accident, and you're not wearing your seatbelt, the responsibility for your injuries is on you.  That includes the medical expenses. I could care less if you do things that put you at risk of being injured, just don't expect someone else (including your insurance company) to pick up the tab should you get hurt.

    Boy aren't we sanctimonious!

    And on the plight of the deaf...so much for America, land of the free.....go check a few states out dude, you'll find more than a few.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membernhmtb
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2008
     
    nhmtb
    Only when I am not talking on the cell phone Wink
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrfortescue
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2008
     
    rfortescue

    I stopped riding with my i-pod because I can't hear it over the traffic or wind noise at any volume less than deafening...hey, ho, shows I'm old...

    I haven't been hit by a car, but I should probably add "yet".  There have been near misses, and in most cases I have been travelling at speed (that means down hill in my case!) and I have heared nothing until the car passed too close.

    I am unconvinced by most arguments other than the risk of distraction in traffic. I may go back to using it when strength training on steep hills,when the distraction from the pain is beneficial and I can hear the music.

    I was thinking about taking the cell phone along, it's a Sony Ericsson with mp3 player, so like nhmtb I get best of both worlds!Cool

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    bombero155
    I use my iPod Nano with a pair of Oakley O Rokr Pro's. This is a Bluetooth combination, so it's totally wireless. I keep the volume at a level that I can hear my gears and oncoming traffic. It really helps me get into a zone and takes my mind off of some of the suffering! LOL I always tell myself before I go out that everyone on the road is trying to kill me and I ride accordingly, this keeps me at a heightened sense of a awareness. This is my tenth year of cycling and knock on wood, not one incident. Happy Cycling!
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdandwig
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2008 edited
     
    dandwig

    I think some people are missing the point about why you need to hear.  It's not just overtaking cars, it's dealing with other conditions.  That piece of gravel or glass in the road.  Do you dodge it outwards, further into the traffic lane, or inwards and risk hitting the (curb/parked car/pedestrian/whatever).  If you hear the overtaking car, you dodge inwards, or maybe even risk rolling over it. 

    You also need to hear other sounds.  A bouncing ball could mean something rolling unexpectedly into the road (I've had it happen).  A barking dog is something you need to notice and possibly avoid.  Emergency sirens not only mean you need to pull over (yes, just like a car), but may mean that other traffic will behave unexpectedly as they try to get out of the way.  It may also mean that you need to stop at the light as an ambulance runs the red, crossing in front of you. 

     Being able to hear things around you clearly is one of the few advantages cyclists have over cars, so I'm wondering why anyone would give it up.

  12.  
    thefrozenpenguin
    I use the iHome 2Go on my bike that way I still hear all that is going on around me, that coupled with mirrors on both sides I am more aware of cars. 
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    howiepumpkin

    Its been a while since i last visited but whats going on? TOEKNEEBULLARD. Worried about curtious drivers? Yeah right. They are always curtious to cyclists aren't they? the way the force you into curbs at junctions. Proffesional lorry drivers who realise that the exit off the roundabout is to tight for both of you but still goes around you hoping that you dont dissappear under their trailers wheels. The drivers who pass you making hand gestures in their rear view mirrors asking you if you would like a coffee [remember the advert with Gareth Hunt in shaking his hand]. Please get real. The iSpeaker? I bet that sounds fantastic with the wind blowing around it.

    Concentration levels are affected? Please. Bouncing balls, dogs barking, glass rocks in the road. well if your not observing them WITH YOUR EYES well enough said. If your ear buds are affecting your sight your wearing them wrong.lol. I drive fire engines with flashing lights and two tones wailing. Cars cannot even see them so how they going to spot an earbud at 100 yards?

    MOST drivers dont want to share THEIR road with ya. They own it not you. Maybe we should stop them listening to music in their cars maybe they would concentrate more on trying to knock us all off then.

    Listen to your music at a level that you can do both. By the sounds of it some of you must have headaches from hell when you get in the levels your listening at. Be sensible. BE safe. When a car shunts you from the rear the driver wont care if you had an ipod/mp3 player on. Unless he steals it before driving off. That would just be the bonus.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberkikbaks
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2008
     
    kikbaks

    Yes! iPod, earbuds, and hard-rock playlist every ride. 700 miles a month and no reason to stop.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membercrasher
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2008
     
    crasher

    I always wear earbuds when I ride. I've stopped at intersections with police officers in the lane with me and they don't seem to care here in WA. If anything, I feel that listening to music makes me more visually aware of my surroundings. I've yet to be hit or even surprised by a passing car.

     

    "...But we have a very effective but very expensive first-response system and who pays for this when you get airlifted to the nearest hospital and spend a couple of days in ICU? "

    I don't know where you live, but here the victim and his family eats the cost of an airlift, not the taxpayers.

     

     

     

     

  14.  
    mikeprendergast

    iPod Shuffle, Ear buds & Sammy Hagar "I can't drive 55" gets my pace where it needs to be! Cool

  15.  
    quarterjack
    Don't do it, ever.  Drivers aren't that interested in looking out for you, so you need to be.
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    bizicletero

    I listen to music everytime I ride by myself but I am always very aware of my surroundings and If I get to heavy traffic I turn it off and with low volume all the time not for the traffic but for my ears

     Salut

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberfoxvog
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2008
     
    foxvog
    I download some songs to my Blackberry, stick my blue tooth in and ride. This is great cause i can also take calls while on a ride along with it being there in case i need help quick.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membersmsm1
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2008
     
    smsm1
    I use my hearing too much to listen for the traffic around me to be able to have anything in my ears. I don't understand all the cyclists I see with earphone stuck in their ears, so they can't tell what's going on. (I'll never wear a helmet for normal road cycling (8 mile commuting or long distance)

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