Cycling Forum: New Mapping Tool

Kevin

Looks good roll it out as an option for us Cyclist. I did notice it recognizes a local address more accurately than the other version. I like the option of having the box on the side that allows you to check or not follow roads etc. with out having to go back to map settings. Question? When i save a new ride and i have specified a distance marker of say 5km i pull the map up again and the distance is marked in 1km increments. Just wondering.

Thanks 

Rob

I'm not getting the follow road function to work. When trying to make a route, it seems to go either the longest way possible between two points or either giving me an error that it cannot perform the function.

Otherwise, I like it.

It's great, I can finally get my *.tcx files in.  One problem:  I can't save the routes I'm importing.  Some sort of Java error.

Dave

Not read for prime time.  In fact, it's so incredibly buggy that I can't believe it was even released as Beta.  The auto route feature is completely broken.  In following a road, the map invariably, and I mean invariably adds superflous data that has to be backed out by hand and by guess.  A huge waste of time.  In addition, the mapping moving function frequently slips into data add function meaning that while you're moving the map,  you're adding points to the route.  Not good. 

 I suggest you delay implementation until these time consuming user-unfriendly bugs can be addressed.

Ed

When you are mapping your route, the icon for the mouse is a hand, not a cross.  This made it harder to click on the correct side of the road. Along those same lines, since the last mapping tool, it's been hard to click on a road you have already ridden on.  The tool always thinks you want to edit the previous marking, and not make a new marking.  It also added 'Null' as route notes in a couple locations, not sure why.  It's better than the last mapping tool, so good work there.

I love the mapping tool. I'm a newbie and have never used the old tool, so I can't comment, but as a software developer I'd like to say thanks for pulling this together. It's all fun and games until you get into the seemingly never ending bug hunt.

 I noticed something unusual when logging a run using a route I had previously saved. When I entered my time and clicked "re-calculate", the kcal field was populated. When I reduced the time for the route (i.e. I ran faster), and clicked "re-calculate" the kcal value went down.

 There must be an issue in the formula, as the time decreases for a set distance, the pace increase and the work performed increases. Unfortunately, this probably means that all logged records will need to be recalculated once this fixed. 

 Thanks for the tool.

 Cheers.

I think there is a bug with the export crs file tool, running in firefox. When I click 'download file' nothing happens, and the firefox error console window shows a message about a variable "totalSec"

Source File: http://static.mapmyfitness.com/re_6859_static/js/built/mmf.js?v=6859
Line: 269

 The error console lets you open some code, and highlights the line:

function exportCRS(){var intMinutes=parseInt($("#txtCrsPaceMinute").val());var intSeconds=parseInt($("#txtCrsPaceSecond").val());var strFileType=$("#lstFileType").val();var intTotalSeconds=intMinutes*60+intSeconds;if(MapSettings.km){totalSec*=1.609344;}

 I will now try it in Internet Explorer.

Nothing happens in IE either (When I click 'download file' to save crs). It states 'error on page' at bottom left, details are:

 Line: 270

Char: 234

Error: Object expected

code:0

Then gives the URL.

This is the first time I have used the mapping tool and I found it very easy to learn and use.   I was using FireFox 2.00.20 on a Vista OS and I did not have any significant issues.  Most of what I encountered were 'learning curve issue' rather than software bugs.  I signed up as a free user and mapped out 4 routes that I typically ride.  The tool makes it so easy to click on the road and drag to a new point and click again.  The navigation tool on the side was handy to either shift the map or zoom in/out.  I really like "simple to use" but rich in function info fields for describing the route.  I especially love the select a tag word feature, very nice!  I was wondering if that box automatically adds the most popular "tags" or if it is manually updated.   On the 4th course I discovered how to turn on the Elevation feature and  said how cool is that, "I don't need to buy a GPS to calculate the total climb in feet nor grade % of specific hills.  The AD box was initially a pest but I was able to anchor it to the side of the map window and it stayed there, thanks!  I think you have done a great job and will definitely tell my riding buddies about the site.

Mark 

Ok, I think the new mapping tool has some major issues. 

1) It seems to at times in the mapping map a triangle and you have to undo 3-6 times to get back to the previous point and try again.  This happens when you click around a corner going form one road to the next.  It really is a pain in the butt.  I don;t ever remember this happening in the old tool.

2) I mapped a 12 mile loop, I added some notes to the starting point, more details on the place to start, etc.  Then mapped the first mile or so not following roads as it was on a bike patch next to a highway.  After that I followed the highway for a bit and then had to manually turn off the follow roads again to get to the road (from the bike path).  At this point I added a note and continued on mapping following roads.  I had the issue described above several times.  I then chnged the marker for the end of the route to and End and added some comment to the note.   Everthying looked great so I saved the route.  Now I open it and there are tripples of the manually added note and the end stop note.  I edit, delete them, save and go to print and now it skips the first note, has the triples agian, etc - what a pain in the butt!  I'm really pissed I spent an hour plus on a 12 mile route and it's hosed!!!  You guys need to get it together soon.

Here is the route in Question http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/WI/Middleton%2C%20WI/658123716225190423

Kevin

I too like the new version having used MapMyRun to plot my running for over  year I guess.  The colouring on the elevation is particularly helpful.

However, I can't see that anybody else has commented on the two points I'd like to make, so here goes.

1: Really annoying.  The kilometer elevation now seems to only display in 1.5 k breaks.  Not at all helpful when I plan my running according to 1k sections.

2: If I am adjusting a run, sometimes the markers suddenly fly off to some point miles away.  Its bizarre.  I can't make it happen and can't say why or when it happens, but usually I have to start all over again to corect it.

Otherwise, thanks, and keep up the good work!

Is there any way to continue using the old tool?  When I select "start mapping", it used to give me that option, but today I couldn't find it and I do not like the new version - I am constantly undoing it because the markers are going all over the place - it's driving me crazy!  Please tell me there is still a way to use the old tool??  If so, how?? 

Thanks!

It would appear that the old mapping tool is gone.  This site is hell-bent on destroying its usability.

Mapping works satisfactorily if you click the route at every intersection.  It is difficult if part of your route is out and back since it is hard to lay down new point inbound without just selecting a point from the outbound route. 

Unfortunately, the Auto "cue" sheets with the follows roads is very erroneous - missing some turns and giving the wrong direction on other turns making the cue sheets worthless.  The distance tracking, elevation and map generation however seem to work fine.  I'm happy to send you examples if you tell me where to send them.

I'm getting same as irishfol.  In IE and firefox I get same response.  IE does display error about missing ")".  Line 806 Char 15. 

Firefox Error Console shows:  Error: missing ) in parenthetical
Source File: http://static.mapmyfitness.com/re_7600_static/js/built/mmf.js?v=7600
Line: 805, Column: 14
Source Code:
{return(num&lt;<cnt)|(num>>>(32-cnt));}

One other thing that happens with this new tool (it's happening to me right now, and I can't make it stop) ... I'm in the middle of mapping a new bike route, and all of a sudden, the tool starts doing out-and-back or loop mapping.  I have not clicked on those features.  As a matter of fact, I am even being very careful to not click anywhere near that tool box, because I thought that maybe I had gotten too close to a button.  It just starts looping my route.  I have to click Undo after every click to make it erase part of the line.  This is when I get REALLY frustrated and just ditch Map my Ride and go use another site.   Any ideas of the cause and how to rectify?

I get an the following error:

An Unknown error occured with our Elevation Provider and we are unable to display Elevation. Please try again later...

when looking at or creating maps for my homestate of Alaska. It works fine when I choose a ride in Seattle. Is this an issue with lack of elevation data for Alaska? 

Kevin - two fairly minor issues, one covered above, one not. 

1- I saw today for the first time chimene's problem with blacked-out map scaling gadget.  This two-inch rectangle shows its normal cross hatched scale tool detail, but it's behind a dark gray but not quite opaque scrim, and cannot be clicked or selected.   Sorry, I cleared the symptom (by restarting MMR) before reviewing this topic and seeing your screenshot request.  If it recurs, I'll forward one. 

2- When logging a ride as my workout, the [Add New Workout] dialog screens ask for and collect details (workout type and description, start and end times, # laps, etc), then calculate some values (speed, pace, calories).  Then I press [Add Workout], and get an error msg "Enter only digits".  The dialog now shows the calculated kcalories value inverted (with a minus sign) and its  box now with red boundary to show it is the offending field.  For some reason, the calculated value is set to negative just as the Save Workout command is activated.  I can easily edit this input field, removing the minus sign, and [Add Workoout] once again, this time successfully. 

System: Vista Home Premium,   Firefox 3.0.5.  

Add one more vote to the requests above for the mouse pointer to be a cross-hair when in map-edit mode, as the hand-shape mouse pointer is not fine enough. 

I totally agree! I have used this site for years and never had as many problems as I have the last couple of times I have attempted to map something. The auto router is a disaster and incredibly frustrating, it adds roads that you don't want, and it is slow to back out, then it becomes impossible to not have it happen when you try again.

Please fix the auto routing feature!!!